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Re: Just An Observation [laurasdada] by bodble2
Oct 21, 2008 (9:36 am)
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Replying to: laurasdada (Oct 21, 2008 8:59 am)

I've always been of the opinion that if a style has to "grow on you", then there is something basically wrong with the design. Similarly, if a car only looks good in a certain guise, in certain colours, or with certain add-ons, or appearance packages, then the basic design is not very good. Just like a genuinely good-looking woman will look good with, or without makeup!
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Re: Just An Observation (laurasdada) by hpmctorque
Oct 21, 2008 (9:53 am)
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"... rather familiarity might breed more acceptance."
 
That's an interesting way of expressing what may happen to many of us. I never really thought if it that way, but I think that happens to me with certain Camrys.
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Re: Just An Observation (laurasdada) [hpmctorque] by bodble2
Oct 21, 2008 (11:01 am)
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Replying to: hpmctorque (Oct 21, 2008 9:53 am)

I thought familiarity breeds contempt! Or does that only apply between spouses?
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Re: Just An Observation [laurasdada] by jpdisarro
Oct 21, 2008 (11:16 am)
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Replying to: laurasdada (Oct 21, 2008 8:59 am)

The car would benefit if the large chrome piece on the front shrunk substantially. Even with the some of the quibbles with the styling, the TL will likely still be on my list when I am shopping for my next car due to the dearth of reasonably priced, desirable AWD cars.
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Mostly Negative by vaughn4
Oct 21, 2008 (2:23 pm)
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From reading all of these posts I think Acura may have a real issue with the polarizing styling of the 09 TL. I've also looked at a plethora of other sites and the consumer opinions on the styling of the new TL is down right pretty amazing - In a negative sense that is.
 
I have yet to see a real live 09 TL on the road so I don't think people are smitten with this new version IMHO. I travel throughout Florida from Miami to Jax, Orlando and Tampa so I would have expected to see at least one by now.
 
Acura better hope it at least turns out to be bullet proof with respect to reliability or they will definitely have a dud on their hands. Too many first year model problems coupled with the controversial styling will be the ultimate kiss of death.
 
Is Acura/Honda losing its appeal? I fear more and more signs are pointing to that possibility. I also note that a fully loaded 09 TL is closely approaching the entry level luxury of the BMW, Audi, and Mercedes types.
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Re: Mostly Negative [vaughn4] by bodble2
Oct 21, 2008 (2:55 pm)
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Replying to: vaughn4 (Oct 21, 2008 2:23 pm)

Well, when we dropped by our dealer a couple of weekends ago to have a look-see, there were about 5 or 6 '09 TL's sitting on the lot, but no one was looking other than us. In fact, there was very little showroom traffic overall. You would think a brand new model would garner significant interest, even if it is just mostly out of curiosity. I figure 3 possible factors at play --- the gloomy economic outlook, the Acura/Honda brand losing its appeal, as you said, and a lot of people striking the TL off of their lists, just based on styling and/or size.
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by gundersen
Oct 21, 2008 (3:02 pm)
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To dysutton. Your experience is absolutely, positively not typical. The only car company that has less problems as a whole than Honda/Acura is Toyota/Lexus. check it out.
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Re: Mostly Negative [bodble2] by go_mdx1
Oct 21, 2008 (4:33 pm)
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Replying to: bodble2 (Oct 21, 2008 2:55 pm)

With today's economy, dealer foot traffic is a very poor barometer of how well a car has been made or designed. Two months ago, Honda Civic's were flying out of the dealer showrooms. Now, at the local dealer, there is over 50 Civics in stock (including a bunch of hybrids). Honda dealer is nearly empty on Saturday's.
 
So, I vote for factor #1 "gloomy economic outlook" as the main reason this car is not selling well.
 
BTW: I own an 09 Maxima and have yet to see another 09 Maxima on the road in the two months since I purchased the car.
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Re: Mostly Negative [go_mdx1] by kennyg8
Oct 21, 2008 (5:00 pm)
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Replying to: go_mdx1 (Oct 21, 2008 4:33 pm)

I agree. The poor foot traffic is most likely due to gloomy economic outlook, and Acura showrooms are no different than showrooms of other (comparable) brands.
 
Surprisingly, there is no comparison of the 09 Acura v Maxima in Edmunds. With the more upscaled Maxima, it is moving closer to the TL, except that you can get a comparably equipped Maxima for a grand or two less. The SH-AWD TL costs $42k, which I think will cost Acura to lose a substantial number of potential customers, unless significant discounts are given.
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Re: Acura should call it quits. [dvsutton] by kennyg8
Oct 21, 2008 (5:12 pm)
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Replying to: dvsutton (Oct 20, 2008 11:04 pm)

Sorry to hear about your wife's Honda Odyssey. Like many posters have pointed out, however, your problems are atypical, as Honda and Acura (particularly Acura) do have a reputation of making cars that are rather reliable, especially when compared with other brands. Even Lexus, the perennial favorite of Consumer Reports, produces a few lemons. Yours might be a lemon ... sorry

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