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Re: 09 TL too big, weird front end [kirstie_h] by billyperks2
Oct 17, 2008 (10:10 am)
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Replying to: kirstie_h (Oct 17, 2008 9:28 am)

He is insulting my choice of vechicle as well.
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What grade is this? by sanish
Oct 17, 2008 (11:48 am)
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Last month, I was folllowing a discussion between Avalon/Camry/ES350 and when one person was repeatedly (in a good way) posting that they are different cars and cannot be compared, the host asked him to leave the discussion (in a rude way). They deleted his post and he said that he is not going to return to this forum. Kirstie is being nice to you, so please have some sanity to the discussion.
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Re: 09 TL too big, weird front end [kennyg8] by sekitori
Oct 17, 2008 (2:01 pm)
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Replying to: kennyg8 (Oct 16, 2008 4:16 pm)

Bigger does not necessarily equate with worse agility or performance! With the AWD version, the bigger TL can be both agile (around corners) and comfortable (in the cabin).
 
I believe that an automobile's size alone has nothing to do with agility or performance but it has a great deal to do with convenience. By convenience I mean the overcoming of problems related to moving it around in everyday use. One such problem is parking a longer automobile in a parallel parking space. It also refers to problems involved driving a wider car while heading into a parking slot. Not only is it more difficult to pull into such a space cleanly, but it also means that while parked, wider cars are better targets for being dinged by the opening of doors on cars next to it.
 
Although acceleration, braking, steering agility, and gas milage (among other things) can be extremely important, they aren't everything. I believe that convenience is equally important. The dictionary describes it as "the state of being able to proceed with something with little effort or difficulty". If an automobile becomes large enough where it no longer becomes easy for me to drive, it detracts from all the other good things it has to offer. The '09 FWD TL has become six inches longer and two inches wider while giving me virtually nothing in return.
 
I was considering the '09TL at one time. It's supposedly a wonderful car technically, but its styling decreased my interest greatly. Its added size completely killed off any interest I had left.
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Re: 09 TL too big, weird front end [billyperks2] by bodble2
Oct 17, 2008 (4:08 pm)
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Replying to: billyperks2 (Oct 17, 2008 6:21 am)

How about aging, ex-marines? I know you don't have 20/20 vision, because you think the '09 TL looks good!
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Re: 09 TL too big, weird front end [billyperks2] by bodble2
Oct 17, 2008 (4:17 pm)
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Replying to: billyperks2 (Oct 17, 2008 6:32 am)

Hmm...that's weird. You can't be describing my car because mine doesn't have any of those issues. Well, ok, it's got FWD.
 
Maybe you've got it mixed up with the previous generation TL? They do say memory is the 2nd thing to go for ex-military guys, right after eyesight!
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by gundersen
Oct 17, 2008 (5:45 pm)
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The reason the new TL is bigger is very simple. It's because of the Accord. They're built on the same platform. They always have been. The accord got bigger because that is the trend. It's all about competition and trend.The Camry, Mazda 6, Taurus, Sonata etc. have all gotten bigger too. I might add that the new Accord has been praised for very crisp and precise handling despite its size.
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Re: 09 TL too big, weird front end [bodble2] by ocim
Oct 17, 2008 (5:47 pm)
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Replying to: bodble2 (Oct 17, 2008 4:17 pm)

bodble2, What is your problem. Every one of your posts cuts down either the 09 TL or those that happen to have a positive opinion of it. We get it already, you don't like the 09. So, move on and go find another car. Why is it so important for you to try to convince everyone else to dislike the car just because you do. Don't you have anything better to do. I am tired of having to sift through all of your silly posts.
 
Now, if anyone out there has test driven the car, I'd like to hear your impressions.
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Acura should call it quits. by dvsutton
Oct 17, 2008 (6:51 pm)
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The Acura TL. I don't know who is more embarassed? The one who approved the design or the schelp that has to be seen in one. Acura should call it quits. Now I know why sales of Acura's are down more than any other near luxury brand. I don't know what will tick off owners more; Getting weird looks from people when you drive it, or dealing with a Honda transmission that will only go 30k miles without a rebuild.
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Re: Acura should call it quits. [dvsutton] by kennyg8
Oct 17, 2008 (8:00 pm)
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Replying to: dvsutton (Oct 17, 2008 6:51 pm)

Your negative comments about Acura, and the 09 TL in particular, are WAY too harsh. In fact, I believe your comments are totally biased and unwarranted, even though you may be entitled to express them in a forum such as this.
 
If you think a Honda/Acura transmission needs to be replaced every 30k miles, you have not driven or owned a Honda/Acura. May be you are a salesman for a competitor and you feel compelled to denigrate Acura in this forum. Good luck to you ... whatever you do for a living.
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Re: 09 TL too big, weird front end [ocim] by traumeri
Oct 17, 2008 (8:08 pm)
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Replying to: ocim (Oct 17, 2008 5:47 pm)

You will find a few buried amongst the hate mail.
 
Had a brief drive last month, overall an upgrade over 08TL. Exterior is better in person than pictures definitely, how much better is another story. Is it great? No. Will it grow on us? Maybe. Size is most noticeable in rear room, trunk design/space is a disappointment...maybe for safety reasons? Turn radius is still big, but handles smaller than size. Acceleration feels solid but not blazing (mid-6s is my guess 0-60). Interior is very nice, the Navi/stereo/dashboard are all thumbs up. Not sure about the seats, will have to go back again. Much better road/wind isolation, the 17" wheels didn't look too small in person.

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