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Re: 09 TL too big, weird front end [kennyg8] by bodble2
Oct 16, 2008 (4:44 pm)
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Replying to: kennyg8 (Oct 16, 2008 4:16 pm)

'Bigger does not necessarily equate with worse agility or performance..."
 
I didn't imply that. I just found it perplexing that Acura had to increase the size of the car just to implement an AWD system, if that is indeed the reason for the increase in exterior dimensions.
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'99-'03 vs. '04-'08 by hpmctorque
Oct 17, 2008 (6:08 am)
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Going back several messages, there was a discussion about the relative size of the '99-'03 generation TL compared to the next one, and the point was made in a few messages that the '04-'08 was smaller than the precious generation. Well, yes and no; while the ''04-'08s are indeed shorter, they're also wider than the '99-'03s. The '09 is bigger (longer, wider and heavier) than both previous generations. For this reason, I'd choose a '09 3-Series or A4 to replace our '99 TL.
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Re: 09 TL too big, weird front end [bodble2] by billyperks2
Oct 17, 2008 (6:21 am)
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Replying to: bodble2 (Oct 16, 2008 12:37 pm)

Marines have 20 20 vision.
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Re: 09 TL too big, weird front end [bodble2] by billyperks2
Oct 17, 2008 (6:32 am)
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Replying to: bodble2 (Oct 16, 2008 12:31 pm)

No matter what you say about this new TL, it's way better than the FWD, torque steering, rattling sunroof, bad speakers, cheap leather, horrible turning radius car that you have.
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Re: 09 TL too big, weird front end [billyperks2] by kirstie_h HOST
Oct 17, 2008 (9:28 am)
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Replying to: billyperks2 (Oct 17, 2008 6:32 am)

I don't think it's really necessary to insult someone else's choice of vehicle - you can say say you prefer the TL without the insults, please.
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Re: 09 TL too big, weird front end [kirstie_h] by billyperks2
Oct 17, 2008 (10:10 am)
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Replying to: kirstie_h (Oct 17, 2008 9:28 am)

He is insulting my choice of vechicle as well.
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What grade is this? by sanish
Oct 17, 2008 (11:48 am)
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Last month, I was folllowing a discussion between Avalon/Camry/ES350 and when one person was repeatedly (in a good way) posting that they are different cars and cannot be compared, the host asked him to leave the discussion (in a rude way). They deleted his post and he said that he is not going to return to this forum. Kirstie is being nice to you, so please have some sanity to the discussion.
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Re: 09 TL too big, weird front end [kennyg8] by sekitori
Oct 17, 2008 (2:01 pm)
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Replying to: kennyg8 (Oct 16, 2008 4:16 pm)

Bigger does not necessarily equate with worse agility or performance! With the AWD version, the bigger TL can be both agile (around corners) and comfortable (in the cabin).
 
I believe that an automobile's size alone has nothing to do with agility or performance but it has a great deal to do with convenience. By convenience I mean the overcoming of problems related to moving it around in everyday use. One such problem is parking a longer automobile in a parallel parking space. It also refers to problems involved driving a wider car while heading into a parking slot. Not only is it more difficult to pull into such a space cleanly, but it also means that while parked, wider cars are better targets for being dinged by the opening of doors on cars next to it.
 
Although acceleration, braking, steering agility, and gas milage (among other things) can be extremely important, they aren't everything. I believe that convenience is equally important. The dictionary describes it as "the state of being able to proceed with something with little effort or difficulty". If an automobile becomes large enough where it no longer becomes easy for me to drive, it detracts from all the other good things it has to offer. The '09 FWD TL has become six inches longer and two inches wider while giving me virtually nothing in return.
 
I was considering the '09TL at one time. It's supposedly a wonderful car technically, but its styling decreased my interest greatly. Its added size completely killed off any interest I had left.
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Re: 09 TL too big, weird front end [billyperks2] by bodble2
Oct 17, 2008 (4:08 pm)
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Replying to: billyperks2 (Oct 17, 2008 6:21 am)

How about aging, ex-marines? I know you don't have 20/20 vision, because you think the '09 TL looks good!
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Re: 09 TL too big, weird front end [billyperks2] by bodble2
Oct 17, 2008 (4:17 pm)
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Replying to: billyperks2 (Oct 17, 2008 6:32 am)

Hmm...that's weird. You can't be describing my car because mine doesn't have any of those issues. Well, ok, it's got FWD.
 
Maybe you've got it mixed up with the previous generation TL? They do say memory is the 2nd thing to go for ex-military guys, right after eyesight!

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