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Re: 09 TL too big, weird front end [billyperks2]
by bodble2
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Oct 16, 2008 (12:37 pm)
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Replying to: billyperks2 (Oct 16, 2008 10:31 am)
"....at my age I should be able to tell the difference between a thumb and a middle finger.'
Well, yeah, exactly. I was concern that, at your age, your eyesight ain't what it used to be. People flip you the bird, and you reply with a thumbs-up! Could be embarrassing.
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- #1098 of 1532
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Re: 09 TL too big, weird front end [bodble2]
by sandy25
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Oct 16, 2008 (1:11 pm)
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Replying to: bodble2 (Oct 16, 2008 12:37 pm)
"Well, yeah, exactly. I was concern that, at your age, your eyesight ain't what it used to be. People flip you the bird, and you reply with a thumbs-up! Could be embarrassing "
bodble - You are really funny!
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Re: 09 TL too big, weird front end [cecilt1]
by sekitori
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Oct 16, 2008 (1:18 pm)
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Replying to: cecilt1 (Oct 15, 2008 6:31 pm)
The main reason the '09 TL was made bigger was to accomodate the SH-AWD system. The increase in exterior size did very little to increase interior passenger volume or trunk space.
I think it's safe to assume that a large percentage of people who purchase '09 TL's will go for the FWD model because they don't need the features provided by the more expensive AWD model. That would mean that the majority of TL owners will end up with an automobile designed for a minority of buyers. They will have a car that has grown considerably larger and get very little or no benefit from that increase in overall size. Such a concept may seem to make sense to Acura but it makes no sense at all to me.
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Re: 09 TL too big, weird front end [sandy25]
by bodble2
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Oct 16, 2008 (1:22 pm)
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Replying to: sandy25 (Oct 16, 2008 1:11 pm)
Aw, gee ... thanks, sandy! Somethimes a little levity is necessary to keep the debate from getting too serious and heated.
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- #1101 of 1532
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Re: 09 TL too big, weird front end [sekitori]
by bodble2
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Oct 16, 2008 (1:25 pm)
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Replying to: sekitori (Oct 16, 2008 1:18 pm)
Actually, if Acura had to super-size the car to accommodate the AWD system, then there's something wrong. BMW and Audi, just 2 examples, managed to fit very sophisticated and capable AWD systems in their compact-size models.
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Re: 09 TL too big, weird front end [bodble2]
by kennyg8
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Oct 16, 2008 (4:16 pm)
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Replying to: bodble2 (Oct 16, 2008 1:25 pm)
Bigger does not necessarily equate with worse agility or performance! With the AWD version, the bigger TL can be both agile (around corners) and comfortable (in the cabin). However, as some have pointed out, only the back seats are bigger, despite the much larger exterior dimensions, which says quite a bit about Acura's flawed design. I like the 3G design and dimensions, but I do not mind the larger 4G, so long as it remains agile with the AWD. Did someone mention that the 4G has a smaller turn circle?
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- #1103 of 1532
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Re: 09 TL too big, weird front end [kennyg8]
by bodble2
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Oct 16, 2008 (4:44 pm)
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Replying to: kennyg8 (Oct 16, 2008 4:16 pm)
'Bigger does not necessarily equate with worse agility or performance..."
I didn't imply that. I just found it perplexing that Acura had to increase the size of the car just to implement an AWD system, if that is indeed the reason for the increase in exterior dimensions.
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'99-'03 vs. '04-'08
by hpmctorque
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Oct 17, 2008 (6:08 am)
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Going back several messages, there was a discussion about the relative size of the '99-'03 generation TL compared to the next one, and the point was made in a few messages that the '04-'08 was smaller than the precious generation. Well, yes and no; while the ''04-'08s are indeed shorter, they're also wider than the '99-'03s. The '09 is bigger (longer, wider and heavier) than both previous generations. For this reason, I'd choose a '09 3-Series or A4 to replace our '99 TL.
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Re: 09 TL too big, weird front end [bodble2]
by billyperks2
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Oct 17, 2008 (6:21 am)
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Replying to: bodble2 (Oct 16, 2008 12:37 pm)
Marines have 20 20 vision.
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- #1106 of 1532
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Re: 09 TL too big, weird front end [bodble2]
by billyperks2
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Oct 17, 2008 (6:32 am)
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Replying to: bodble2 (Oct 16, 2008 12:31 pm)
No matter what you say about this new TL, it's way better than the FWD, torque steering, rattling sunroof, bad speakers, cheap leather, horrible turning radius car that you have.
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