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Replying to: billyperks2 (Oct 15, 2008 1:02 pm) |
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Replying to: billyperks2 (Oct 15, 2008 1:02 pm) Comparing the TL to a "flagship" sedan is unfair in every way. They are designed to appeal to two completely different segments of the market.
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I'm a past owner of an 04 TL, wife and I lover it. Next was an 06 RL, loved it also. Especially the AWD. Now I'm looking at the 09s. Great riding car but because od the price, I'm gonna go back to an 08 TL. Better pricing is the only reason. After being thru several dealers I learn that the next RL ('10) is going to be priced in the mid 60s on up. the TL is going to fill the RLs spot in the model line up. The TSX is going to get a V6 next year. It's almost the size of the 04-08 TLs now. That'll take the TLs spot with probably something smaller in size being introduced. Anybody else?
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Replying to: madpistol (Oct 15, 2008 4:46 pm) '06 vs. '09: Front shoulder room: 58.3"/58.2" Rear Shoulder room: 55.7"/56.2" Front Headroom: 38.7"/38.4" Rear Headroom: 37.2"/36.7" Front Leg Room: 42.8"/42.5" Rear Leg Room: 34.9"/36.2" Front Hiproom: 55.6"/55.7" Rear Hiproom: 53.8"/54.8" Passenger Volume: 97.9 cu ft/98.2 cu ft Trunk: 12.5 cu ft./13.1 but for SH-AWD it is 12.5 cu ft '06 vs. '09 size differences in exterior: Length: 189.3"/195.3" Wheelbase: 107.9"/109.3" Height: 56.7"/57.2" Width: 72.2"/74" As you can see, the TL grew considerably more in exterior size and only grew in rear seat legroom. In some cases it is worse than the 3G TL. No thanks Acura. You made a bloated whale and did not achieve interior increases in size. Granted we get SH-AWD so it makes no sense to buy the regular TL to get a bigger body and not get the SH-AWD with it since that is why the bigger body exists. Hello 2009 A4 quattro 2.0T!
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Replying to: ezielanski (Oct 15, 2008 5:46 pm) OK, that sounds just a little too kinky and personal!   Whatever goes on behind closed doors...... 
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The automaker isn't doing the milquetoast design thing any more. The face of the redesigned, fourth-generation 2009 Acura TL four-door, sporting an inverted wedge of chrome in its mouth that stands out like a silver front tooth, won't slip down boulevards unseen. Nor will motorists driving behind miss the wide "V" of chrome where trunklid meets bodywork. You'll notice this new "emotion advanced" TL, all right ___________________________________ [url=http://www.digitaltransitions.com]medium format digital[/url] [url=http://www.raleighdentist.com]general dentistry raleigh[/url] |
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Replying to: ezielanski (Oct 15, 2008 5:46 pm) Given the current and projected economic conditions, Acura is either going to have to seriously rethink that pricing, or dramatically upgrade the RL far beyond what even I have suggested in the past. I had criticized Acura's (non)flagship for being ho-hum on performance and marginally better than the TL on luxury. I had thought that, since Lexus had really targeted Mercedes with its LS, Acura could target the BMW 550i with a revamped V8 RL, ideally with a RWD sport model that could be had with a 6 speed manual. Priced at $55k, it would be a solid competitor. But now BMW has the 535i, available in RWD or AWD, automatic or 6-speed, standard or sport models. And priced in the $55k range, with performance that is within a knat's ass of the $65k V8 550i. Not to mention, more fuel efficient. I think Acura is smoking dope if they think there is much of a market for a $65k+ RL over the next 3-4 years. They have never achieved anything over dismal sales at invoice or lower pricing on a $40's something RL. And now, with the ecomomy in the tank, and BMW filling it's own gap with the 535i, Acura is contemplating putting out an RL priced near the previous generation M5? Good friggin luck. 
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Replying to: madpistol (Oct 15, 2008 4:46 pm) I cant wait to post the pictures of my new white diamond pearl with the 19" FCS wheels and fully zained downed. Bottom line, I like what I see so far with the FWD version, actually when I took the car for a test drive two motorist gave me a thumbs up while passing.
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Replying to: billyperks2 (Oct 16, 2008 6:13 am) First, the Genesis is Hyundai's flagship. Secondly, the Genesis looks good. Good styling tends to go a long way towards public acceptance. "... two motorist gave me a thumbs up while passing." You sure it wasn't some other digit rather than their thumbs?
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Replying to: habitat1 (Oct 14, 2008 11:11 am) I don't know habitat, after reading some of your fiery posts, that may be too tall of an order.
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