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Re: Well.... [lax29] by bodble2
Oct 14, 2008 (3:08 pm)
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Replying to: lax29 (Oct 14, 2008 12:27 pm)

I'm guessing you meant to say you have to disagree with me.
 
I tried to keep an open mind, but the versions we saw just weren't attractive ..... big, bulky, big schnoz (I don't want that to grow on me any further ), undersized wheels. Just did not look sharp or sporty. Maybe the SH-AWD version with 18" wheel would look better. Have to wait and see. But as of now, if I didn't have a car and was in the market for a family-size sedan, a fully-loaded Accord EX-V6 with the cylinder de-activation would rank ahead of the TL on my list. And not only because it is less expensive, but I think it actually looks better, more cohesive. The TL is a prime example of styling by committee ---- a mishmesh of ideas and cliches.
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Re: Well.... [laurasdada] by traumeri
Oct 14, 2008 (6:31 pm)
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Replying to: laurasdada (Oct 14, 2008 12:53 pm)

I don't think first model year is inherently bad especially coming from a quality company. Major updates are usually 2-3 years into the model anyway and don't forsee any tremendous changes 2010 other than the 6MT. That being said I'm weary Honda will finally come out with their 6AT in 2011 or 2012 but don't think I can wait that long. Other features TL lacks this year compared to competition (335, A4, G35, IS350) = adaptive headlights, lane departure warning, sunshades, and probably a few more things. IMHO these features are not deal-breakers.
 
I would like to see a tighter turning radius, reduced weight, better fuel economy but these features won't change within the same generation.
 
Also, anybody know why Acura changed the SHAWD highway EPA from 24 to 25? Perhaps it is 24.5? Anyway, I've found I exceed EPA for highway travel but just curious what people's takes are?
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Re: Well.... [traumeri] by bodble2
Oct 14, 2008 (8:33 pm)
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Replying to: traumeri (Oct 14, 2008 6:31 pm)

"Other features TL lacks this year compared to competition (335, A4, G35, IS350)...."
 
Don't forget size, although that's actually something the TL has too much of, compared to those other models. The TL is a land yacht next to those,
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Re: new TL [laurasdada] by lax29
Oct 15, 2008 (6:14 am)
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Replying to: laurasdada (Oct 14, 2008 8:44 am)

This is the first time I have heard of Zaino. Is it that good of a product. Usually use the Maguires products.
 
Looked it up and seems like it is a multi stage process. Do I really need to use it in stages? Currently do not have swirl marks and paint looks good, but I do take pretty good care of my cars. Have the red/burgundy color. Open to suggestions.
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Re: new TL [lax29] by laurasdada
Oct 15, 2008 (8:39 am)
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Replying to: lax29 (Oct 15, 2008 6:14 am)

Visit zainostore.com for a bunch of info. I like the stuff, gives a great "mirror" shine and lasts quite a long time. It is not cheap, unlike me... but a little goes a long way.
 
The number of products has grown a bit in the last few years, so different products, different application steps. But I do mix ZFX with Z2 or Z5 and Z6 in between coats (as well as Z7 wash). So, I multi-step. Not difficult to apply/remove, but it is a bit time consuming. To me, worth it especially for a darker blue color like my Abyss Blue TL.
 
The '09 continues, in pix, to not grow on me. I'm fairly sure that the can-opener beak shall not grow on me... What a shame... Still, hope it sells well!
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09 TL too big, weird front end by xrunner2
Oct 15, 2008 (8:59 am)
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Replying to: lax29 (Oct 14, 2008 12:27 pm)

The 09 TL looks much better in person. Personally, I think the grill will start to grow on you as you see more of them out there. Have not driven one yet, but plan on it this week. But, as an owner of a 04 Tl, can't imagine it's not a nice ride.
 
I have an 04 TL, wife has an 07 TL. We were both at Acura dealer yesterday for servicing. Spoke to a sales guy and he having to be positive about style of entire car offered that front grille probably will not hold up well and will show scratches and other marks with time. He said that he liked the front end of TSX over the TL and also said that TSX would get a V6 next year.
 
The car looks bloated compared to the 04-08 generation that was trim and athletic looking. With extra size and weight, would be surprised if handling/performance of 09 even matches 04-08.
 
Hoping R&T does a road test on 09. Will look especially at slalom speed, in that is a key measure of a car's dexterity and agility.
 
I nor wife would not consider buying the 09 TL because of styling/size. Fortunately, do not need replacements for awhile yet. Perhaps Acura headqtrs will get feedback on weird front styling of 09 and will at least make some adjustments in coming years of this generation car.
 
Acura clearly goofed up on making a larger size car. The 04-08 was perfect size per my perspective and was actually downsized from previous gen 99-03 gen TL.
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Re: 09 TL too big, weird front end [xrunner2] by bodble2
Oct 15, 2008 (9:11 am)
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Replying to: xrunner2 (Oct 15, 2008 8:59 am)

My wife and son also gave the new TL their collective 4 thumbs down (it would have been more but they only had 4 thumbs!). Both of them also thought the TSX's front end is more attractive. The RL's is also more attractive, for that matter.
 
I can't say Acura goofed, per se, on making a larger car. The design die was cast years ago, well before any signs of financial meltdown and high gas prices. They just got caught with their pants down just like most other manufacturers.
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TL size by traindriver
Oct 15, 2008 (9:33 am)
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Granted, the new styling is controversial. Current TL owners and enthusiasts might be put off by the increased size as well. However, there are tons of folks that are (reluctantly) coming out of SUV's that may appreciate the larger size of the TL. Personally, I am glad that the TL and the Accord have grown. YMMV.
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Re: 09 TL too big, weird front end [xrunner2] by lax29
Oct 15, 2008 (9:43 am)
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Replying to: xrunner2 (Oct 15, 2008 8:59 am)

I seem to remember that everyone thought the grill on the new MDX was too extreme also. But I don't seem to hear about that anymore.
 
Don't get me wrong, not defending the grill on the 09 TL. It's certainly not my favorite thing about the car.
  
The only thing I liked about the size was the rear leg room seemed to be capable of seating adults without me having to adjust the driver seat. Measured my garage and would have to get rid of the shelving in order to fit it in. Would not be happy about that if I do decide on the purchase.
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Re: new TL [lax29] by kirstie_h HOST
Oct 15, 2008 (9:47 am)
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Replying to: lax29 (Oct 15, 2008 6:14 am)

If you search the forums on "zaino," you'll find a longstanding discussion related to their products.

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