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I also would like too see the Anthracite paint return...... by rockylee
Apr 25, 2007 (6:11 am)
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I just hope they don't ruin the TL's sleek styling. We will see good or bad probably this next Detroit Autoshow.
 
Rocky
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Re: 2009 Acura TL [rockylee] by scottm123
Apr 25, 2007 (6:55 am)
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Replying to: rockylee (Apr 25, 2007 6:05 am)

And your pic brings me to another thought.
What the heck is that thing hanging from your steering column???
I love the G's Intelligent Key.
Enough with integrating the key into a 2lb fob... make the thing keyless.
 
As for the Twin-Turbo... One thing I loved about the TL is the economy. For a Sports Sedan with that power, it did awesome on the highway.. I had it up to 36 mpg.
Taking the guts from the RDX will destroy the economy of this car, especially on the SH-AWD platform.
 
They'll need to find a balance and I'm not sure if the Turbo fits the bill.
Acura has tried the turbo in the RDX, but it has failed to impress me.
I know it's a 4, but the thing does not offer what others call acceleration excitement. It suffers from turbo lag.
Let them continue to use the RDX and maybe even the TSX for their turbo experiments.
Until it's perfected, keep it very far away from the TL.
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Re: 2009 Acura TL [scottm123] by rockylee
Apr 25, 2007 (7:13 am)
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Replying to: scottm123 (Apr 25, 2007 6:55 am)

Yes my fuel economy in my TL, would get 36-37 mpg on a flat road. I got 37 mpg with the wind against my back. The car was flat-out awesome. I liked the idea of turbo-charging because it would not eat the fuel economy #s like a bigger engine. I say take the 3.2 and Twin-Turbo it. I'm okay with turbo-lag if it returns the power. I have not driven the RDX, but the lil' 4-banger does do pretty good with all that weight. What other solution is their to push the hp. performance numbers where they need to be with SH-AWD ? The TL, needs to best the new CTS, 335i, G35, it it wants to gain any market-share. It also needs to keep those fuel economy numbers up as those are expected from a honda. If the 2009' Acura TL, becomes great like my former 2005 was.... I might be able to put my bad experience behind me with Honda, and risk buying or leasing a SH-AWD TL. That however will depend on a lot variables and I don't believe they will follow through but I sure hpe they do.
 
Rocky
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Re: 2009 Acura TL [rockylee] by scottm123
Apr 25, 2007 (7:28 am)
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Replying to: rockylee (Apr 25, 2007 7:13 am)

If Acura wants the TL to do well in the performance segment, they need to keep the Type-S, but give it more than 20 HP and an ugly set of wheels.
 
The TL sells in staggering numbers, but most of what I see on the road are driven by professional, middle-aged people, and older.
 
Keep the base TL where it is, with a new body style and tech updates.
That will sell to the current peeps who love what they already have and are ready for something new.
 
Put the cash into the Type-S and let it compete with those mentioned above.
The 08 CTS-V is gonna be crazy fast, but I personally think Cady builds crap and would never buy one.
The TL needs to go where BMW and Infiniti have not yet gone, all while keeping the dependability that Honda/Acura buyers expect and demand.
 
Engineers have their hands full, that's for sure.
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Re: 2009 Acura TL [scottm123] by rockylee
Apr 25, 2007 (7:42 am)
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Replying to: scottm123 (Apr 25, 2007 7:28 am)

The CTS-V for 09' is on my short-list. "Well if you wanna call a dozen models a short-list ?" I also think Cadillac's new launches are as quality and well built as Honyota's now days. However I agree the TL, should have a Type-S version also but I'd be impressed if they would keep the Alpha inspired design with clean looks and pour in the power. The bottom line is if they screw up this car it will be hard road for Acura's brand. The RL, is a nice car but it needs a few more technology's and a V8 or V10 if it wants run with the big dogs. What's I'd like to see is a 2009' SH-AWD Acura TL with a 6-speed manual, 350 hp via Twin-Turbo hybrid. Now that would be the ultimate green performance car.
 
Rocky
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Re: 2009 Acura TL [rockylee] by scottm123
Apr 25, 2007 (7:45 am)
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Replying to: rockylee (Apr 25, 2007 7:42 am)

I'd like to see is a 2009' SH-AWD Acura TL with a 6-speed manual, 350 hp via Twin-Turbo hybrid.
 
Holy Crap! LOL.... I'm in
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Re: 2009 Acura TL [scottm123] by paisan
Apr 25, 2007 (8:02 am)
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Replying to: scottm123 (Apr 25, 2007 7:45 am)

I find it hard to compare the TL to a G35 or CTS or BMW for the simple fact that it's FWD. I love the looks of the TL but can't get past the FWD low torque engines that HA puts out. To me it's just a loaded up Accord whereas the G35, CTS and BMW have no "base" lowend equivalent. They've differentiated them enough to not be a "fancy" XYZ base car.
 
-mike
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Re: 2009 Acura TL [paisan] by rockylee
Apr 25, 2007 (8:04 am)
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Replying to: paisan (Apr 25, 2007 8:02 am)

The Acura TL, will handle better than most of your RWD performance cars. It' will smoke a G35 in the corners. Go check out the GM on the offense forum to see the numbers
x-runner put up from past edmunds.com tests.
 
Rocky
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Re: 2009 Acura TL [rockylee] by paisan
Apr 25, 2007 (8:14 am)
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Replying to: rockylee (Apr 25, 2007 8:04 am)

Percieved performance is what we are talking about here. By the way I don't put any weight in "test" done by magazines or any online sources. In the real world performance the RWD cars will have a significant advantage in terms of being better balanced etc.
 
Back to the percieved performance, take a look at "luxury performance cars" on the market, BMWs, MB, Caddy, Infiniti, they all have RWD based chassis, this chassis gives it a nice sleek hood line and the front wheels can be pushed forward to the corners, which you can't do on a FWD based car.
 
Imagine though the current TL body with the same engine it has now but RWD, how much of a grand touring and classy automobile would that be?
 
-mike
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Re: 2009 Acura TL [rockylee] by scottm123
Apr 25, 2007 (8:36 am)
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Replying to: rockylee (Apr 25, 2007 8:04 am)

I'd also be careful with the TL vs G35 thoughts.
A G35S equipped with 4WAS is not getting smoked by a TL in the corners, today, or any other day.
And regardless of what the mags tell you, I have driven both, so I have my own opinion.
 
Yes, I know about the Willow Springs thing.
It's the best thing to happen to TL lovers.
Why, however, did they put the Acura Sport model TL-Type-S up against the Infiniti base (Non-Sport) G35?
Put it up against the 07 G35S with 4WAS and this has a whole new ending.
The TL does not have the G's feel of the road.
Now, don't get me wrong... the TL is a blast to drive and handles very well, especially for a FWD car.
 
The G is right on the BMW's coat tails when it comes to feel and handling.
That's something that cannot be said of the TL... yet.

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