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2009 Acura TL by rockylee
Apr 24, 2007 (4:32 am)
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So the big rumor is SH-AWD as has been rumored for the last few years. Any more info or rumors on this new redesign automobile ? I expect major upgrades in Gadgetology, Quality, Performance, Power, but would love to know more details as I was a former 2005' owner and am very interested on how much this car will improve. I hope it isn't another G35 story where their were marginal improvements. I'd like to see the bar raised far enough to knock BMW's 335i of it's feet !!!
 
Rocky
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Re: 2009 Acura TL [rockylee] by paisan
Apr 24, 2007 (4:54 am)
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Replying to: rockylee (Apr 24, 2007 4:32 am)

Problem is it will still likely be FWD based Also the AWD will likely also only come in AT like the G35x
 
-mike
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Re: 2009 Acura TL [paisan] by scottm123
Apr 24, 2007 (5:17 am)
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Replying to: paisan (Apr 24, 2007 4:54 am)

A dime and a donut says it's SH-AWD or at the very least, an available option.
I expect the same engine, maybe just a little retuning.
 
I also suspect that if it is SH-AWD, an Auto will be the only choice.
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Re: 2009 Acura TL [scottm123] by rockylee
Apr 24, 2007 (7:35 pm)
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Replying to: scottm123 (Apr 24, 2007 5:17 am)

scottm123 & paisan, if you both are correct this car probably will be a failure. It needs to be a "shocker" like the 2004' if it wants to earn some credibility. The 2009' Acura TL, needs to have Twin-Turbo power and SH-AWD with a 6-Speed option if it wants to steal sales in the ELPPS segment.
 
Rocky
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Re: 2009 Acura TL [rockylee] by autoboy16
Apr 25, 2007 (4:16 am)
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Replying to: rockylee (Apr 24, 2007 7:35 pm)

Many owners and even I'm starting to believe that with acura(honda's ) engine expertise, with a great balance of sport and comfort, the TL could be the ultimate car if it was RWD.
 
Sh-awd is ok but it weighs alot! Also acura needs a 6-8speed automatic for better fuel economy.
 
If it had the same base engine but tuned to get 260hp, and 250lb ft of torque, it could get the 3.7l v6 tuned to 310hp and 280lb ft of torque. It would be a great car! I just hope it gets RWD or Sh-awd or Both since the TL has 61% of its weigh on the front tires. I guess a Limited slip would fix the torque steer.
 
-Cj
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Re: 2009 Acura TL [autoboy16] by paisan
Apr 25, 2007 (5:00 am)
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Replying to: autoboy16 (Apr 25, 2007 4:16 am)

The problem with tuning out a V6 is that no matter what you do, you'll still have a ver /\ pointy torque curve as opposed to a blocky one found on a V8. So combine that with the SH-AWD sucking down weight and driveline drag and you'll have an anemic car. With that said I'd love to see a RWD V6 version of the TL or TSX but I'm afraid that HA is still stuck on FWD based cars for the long haul.
 
-mike
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Re: 2009 Acura TL [rockylee] by scottm123
Apr 25, 2007 (5:48 am)
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Replying to: rockylee (Apr 24, 2007 7:35 pm)

Agreed, but one word I never used in my post is "failure"
The TL is what it is, and Acura does what's needed to keep that flame alive.
It has a massive following and people buy them regardless of the shortcomings, or what could have made them better.
It's an awesome car and for the money, an awesome value.
(And this is coming from a guy who just bought a G35)
 
I so wanted to like the 07 TL Type-S but for me, it just fell short.
Adding SH-AWD to the existing TL Type-S, I most likely would have bought it.
 
Yeah, folding rear seats are nice, but no deciding factor for me.
If Acura wants my advice, stick with a solid and tested engine but get it over the 300 hp mark, add SH-AWD and a 6-speed manual, and DO NOT make the car smaller.
Stick with what makes the TL such a nice car, and just make it better.
 
Oh, and Acura, enough of the plastic wood, huh?
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Re: 2009 Acura TL [scottm123] by paisan
Apr 25, 2007 (5:52 am)
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Replying to: scottm123 (Apr 25, 2007 5:48 am)

SH-AWD and a 6-speed manual
 
I don't think they have an application of the SH-AWD + manual, there are very few MT systems out there with AWD, Audi and Subaru being the only ones I know of.
 
-mike
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Re: 2009 Acura TL [paisan] by scottm123
Apr 25, 2007 (5:58 am)
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Replying to: paisan (Apr 25, 2007 5:52 am)

I know, I know...
I had that post all written up and previewed it, and thought... hey, since this is a wish list for the 09 TL, why not go all the way, and so, I added the 6-Speed.
 
Just a wish list and most likely, very far from reality.
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Re: 2009 Acura TL [scottm123] by rockylee
Apr 25, 2007 (6:05 am)
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Replying to: scottm123 (Apr 25, 2007 5:48 am)

Agree. They really need to push the envelope with the 09' TL. We all know it will be built on the FWD 08' Honda Accord, so SH-AWD will be the only solution. My opinion is they should put the 3.2 back in and Twin-Turbo it with those turbo's from the RDX. The 3.2 V6 is still a great engine. I assume a 3.7 is a bored and stroked bigger version of the 3.5 V6 ?
 
I do think Acura, needs to hit the hp. mark because it gives up the advantages of RWD with FWD/SH-AWD. To make it most cost effective they should make SH-AWD standard as it would cut production costs for the SH-AWD making it more ecoomically viable and it is indeed a great system as I've felt it's use in a 05' RL, when I baught my 05' TL
 
I also agree the six-speed needs to return. what the hell were they thinking by making that a Type-S only feature ????
 
I also agree the cheap looking fake wood was a big deal. That is why I baught the ebony interior in my 2005' that had the much better looking faux carbon fiber trim. I have pics of my former Acura TL on my carspace page here:
 
http://www.carspace.com/rockylee/Albums/2005%20Acura%20TL/
 
Rocky

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