The Future of Volkswagen in the U.S. - READ ONLY

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#18 of 57 Re: VW technology [boaz47] by kirstie_h HOST

May 01, 2007 (8:17 am)

Replying to: boaz47 (Apr 30, 2007 6:24 pm)
When I had a Jetta 2.0 VR6, I couldn't even get an oil change at a non-VW shop. Why? The techs told me that VW wouldn't sell their filters to them at any less than retail, so no one bothered servicing VWs.
 
It was a love-hate relationship... I really miss the way that thing drove. Fun, fun, fun.

#19 of 57 Re: VW technology [kirstie_h] by boaz47

May 01, 2007 (10:00 am)

Replying to: kirstie_h (May 01, 2007 8:17 am)
I understand. I have had three VWs in three decade mostly because I have been told each time that VW improved. Yes they could be fun but the last time I discovered the word Farfinnugan or however it was spelled meant "sucker". If not it should have meant if you are thinking about getting a VW for daily transportation the thought should be Far--from---your Noggin.

#20 of 57 It is sad.. by kyfdx HOST

May 01, 2007 (2:12 pm)

I love the new VWs.. But, the base engine, as noted, is anemic and thirsty.. and their reputation for reliability, or lack thereof, is evidently richly deserved.
 
All this and priced at a premium to the competition.
 
They really have the best designs, though.. I would take a Passat, Jetta 2.0T, or GTI in a minute.. Also, the Touareg is the best looking SUV made..
 
I really want a VW, but I doubt I'll ever get one.

#21 of 57 Re: It is sad.. [kyfdx] by nippononly

May 01, 2007 (5:47 pm)

Replying to: kyfdx (May 01, 2007 2:12 pm)
C&D this month is reporting the imminent arrival (Jan 2008) of the Jetta wagon, which apparently will pull 170 hp from the 2.5L base engine, without a decrease in fuel economy, so things could be a little less anemic in the base VW lines in the near future.
 
Of course, the 5-cylinder will still be thirsty. But I suppose models equipped with it will also be fast-ish for compact cars, and the fastest cars in this size class, like Mazda3s, Lancer, and Sentra SE-R/Spec V, will all be just about as thirsty, and more expensive in some cases.
 
edit...oh yeah, and I forgot to mention, DIESELS will be back at VW when the Jetta wagon arrives, and that's a 50-state diesel making 140 hp apparently.

#22 of 57 Re: It is sad.. [nippononly] by andys120

May 02, 2007 (7:24 am)

Replying to: nippononly (May 01, 2007 5:47 pm)
oh yeah, and I forgot to mention, DIESELS will be back at VW when the Jetta wagon arrives, and that's a 50-state diesel making 140 hp apparently.
 
Now they're speaking my language!

#23 of 57 Re: It is sad.. [nippononly] by boaz47

May 02, 2007 (7:48 am)

Replying to: nippononly (May 01, 2007 5:47 pm)
even as much as I like the diesel idea knowing that VWs spend so much time in the shop will keep me away. And I will be needing another car by then. VW simply isn't a car for people who aren't interested in knowing the service manager by their first name. Like one other poster mentioned they reminded them of Lucas electrics.
 
I will admit they are often good looking machines and they seem to handle pretty well. But what good does that do you sitting on a flat bed or waiting in the shop for parts. VW has got to be happy that Land Rover and Kia make vehicles so they aren't all alone on the bottom of the JD Powers list anymore. In another twenty years maybe they will catch Hyundia.

#24 of 57 if they build this by harrychezt

May 22, 2007 (9:39 pm)

2010 VW Beetle hatch(sporty looking car)....
I'd seriously consider a VW(as long as it is not 20K+ msrp, that is).
http://www.thetorquereport.com/spy_shots/
 
Only sketches, etc... still, very intriguing.
take care/not offense.

#25 of 57 Re: It is sad.. [boaz47] by harrychezt

May 22, 2007 (9:51 pm)

Replying to: boaz47 (May 02, 2007 7:48 am)
http://paultan.org/archives/2006/07/27/kia-rio-tops-us-compact-car-jd-power-iqs/- -
Not as far down the chart as they used to be, Kia.
This was from 2006.
I know, JD Powers...
Still, some people like to see charts
take care/not offense.

#26 of 57 VW needs to get back to basics by drfill

May 22, 2007 (10:18 pm)

Give America what it expects out of them, fun, sub-$30k vehicles, with an alternative German style.
 
   Scirocco needs to come back with V6 for around $24k.
 
   Touraeg needs to be brought back to reality, get bigger, yet lighter, and stay between $25k and $35k.
 
   Passat is getting too expensive as well. It should compete directly with Camry V6, and not exceed the low 30's.
 
   Imagine a cap at $35k, then build cars that will fit under that cap, without seeming decontented.
 
   Improve quality, if they have to leave Mexico to do it, so be it.
 
   I know there is a currency problem, all the more reason to trim their lineups so their customers don't have to pay for those issues.
 
   Just some ideas off the top of my head.
 
   Drfill

#27 of 57 VW design problems by texases

May 23, 2007 (10:34 am)

Here are two good discussions from a mechanic on VW's design issues:
article 1
Article 2
 
PS - I wish VW was better, I owned a '79 Scirocco and '83 GTI for 15 years total, great cars, no problems.

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