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Mazda CX-9 Navigation Features and Questions

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Re: Nighttime display [ocala] by imamg
Sep 06, 2007 (10:25 am)
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Replying to: ocala (Aug 30, 2007 6:56 pm)

At what point would you like it to automatically change? I'd think it'd be more of a pain for it to do so when you didn want it... as opposed to simply pressing one button when you want or dont want it.
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OEM Nav vs. say a Nuvi 350 by kbedwards
Sep 26, 2007 (5:56 am)
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Replying to: imamg (Sep 06, 2007 10:25 am)

I have used and loved many a Garmin auto GPS unit. Man that sounds bad.
 
But it's true, the interface, the intuitiveness, everything about those little units just screams quality and testing to me. It's like the designers are always one step ahead of you when you are using it, always anticipating your next step.
 
Anyway, gushfest behind us, I just test drove a GT Cx-9 last night, with one of my primary goals being to take a look at the nav system which has been much maligned as being out of date, clunky, and generally a lot of confusion or lack of knowledge about it from Mazda in general:
 
Updates - how do you get them? When do you get them? How much do they cost? How updated is the map when I buy the car?
 
Unfortunately, my salesman did not have a clue how to even use the system, so it went untested by me.
 
Can someone with some experience with the excellent Garmin standalone products and the Mazda system please do a comparo for me? Is a really really crappy OEM nav system a deal breaker? I.e. if it is as bad as everyone says, the logical thing seems to be to get a $300 Nuvi 350, and just not get that option on the CX9 (but then you lose a lot of other features, right? Camera, for instance, don't know what else, maybe premium sound?) Since my Mazda salesguy couldn't answer any of my questions, just hoping someone here can.
 
Thanks
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Re: OEM Nav vs. say a Nuvi 350 [kbedwards] by tooold
Sep 26, 2007 (6:50 am)
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Replying to: kbedwards (Sep 26, 2007 5:56 am)

I have a CX-9 GT with Nav and a Nuvi 350. I bought the Nuvi to use in one of our other vehicles. The nav in the 9 works ok, about the same as the one in my previous GM vehicle, but it suffers from all the usual restrictions of built-ins. Unless the manufacturers make some sweeping changes to the way the built-ins work and update, I will never have another. I always have a copilot so the Nuvi can be reprogrammed on the fly easily. If you're always solo, you have to park it to change things anyway. I've never tried a real voice controlled nav. The voice control in the 9 is useless.
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Re: OEM Nav vs. say a Nuvi 350 [tooold] by kbedwards
Sep 26, 2007 (7:21 am)
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Replying to: tooold (Sep 26, 2007 6:50 am)

Excellent! Thanks. So you would recommend NOT getting the Nav in the CX9?
 
That is so sad...considering the cost of the vehicle at the GT level, as well as the fact that I don't currently even have a portable GPS - would have to go buy one.
 
Let me rephrase, considering what else comes in the package with NAV in the CX9, would you suffer the craptitude that it is to get the other stuff anyway?
 
I.e. is the other stuff that comes with the Nav package worth the extra cost (to you - I know that is somewhat subjective)?
 
Thanks again...
 
So voice interaction does not work at all with the Nav system of the CX-9? I am thinking I will make them show me how it works at the dealer before I buy, and if it really is bad, or they can't get it to work properly, or at all, I will try to use that as a bargaining tool.
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Re: OEM Nav vs. say a Nuvi 350 [kbedwards] by kbedwards
Oct 02, 2007 (8:15 am)
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Replying to: kbedwards (Sep 26, 2007 7:21 am)

Update: bought the GT with Nav after all.
 
I made them show me that the voice recog works (it did) before I would buy
 
Also was assured that the map is not more than a year old. Finally got hold of someone that knew what they were talking about. He said the old map versions shipping with new cars was a def problem before, but they are trying to change it.
 
I have yet to verify the map version in mine, but will try to get a year to confirm.
 
Updates ARE available, on DVD. Did not know how much they would be. I am guessing $200-$300.
 
I will say that the graphics are horrible! Compared to the svelte Garmin units, even the last gen Garmins, with their 3D option, this thing looks like it's 20 yrs old!
 
I wonder what effect Nokia buying Navteq (announced yesterday I think) will have on this system in the future?
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NAV is USELESS by tommy3102
Oct 22, 2007 (1:01 pm)
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Ok I am spoiled I will admit it - we have a Nuvi 360 and love it on trips and around town.
 
The lockout while moving on any built-in is frustrating, and in my opinion the voice functions are clunky to useless. Say "go home" and it will tell you "you are not currently under voice navigation." It constantly misunderstands you. Why can't they make a real product? Also POI database is horrendous I mean realllly terrible.
 
I was sitting in the parking lot of Kohl's department store and we needed to go to Costco, so type up C..O..S..T search and Costco pizza in MASSACHUSSETS comes up - I am in Jersey, and yes I had the region properly selected the whole time.
 
Ok so you don't have my Costco - not a new one, but ok, well guess what? NO Costco's at all. NONE, no SAM'S CLUB. Oh and Kohl's whose parking lot I was sitting in - nope not that either. Suggested that maybe I was really looking for Kohls park - in BOULDER *&(&*ing COLORADO. Give me a break.
 
Under POI shopping there are only 2 choices - Shopping malls or grocery stores - and those work poorly (I was next to a pathmark supermarket and the damn nav was telling me the closest supermarket was 2.5 miles away. GIVE ME A BREAK.
 
SO we pulled out our internet enabled phone looked up COSTCO and typed in the address - and BAM the navigation took us straight there. The Nav even knew to tell us where the entrance to the parking lot was.
 
So if you have every address you will ever need the this nav is for you. I would much rather have skipped BT and NAV and even though I am leasing spent $1,000 on a top notch DVD/NAV/BT/STEREO that actually works and looks awesome - I would still be ahead of the game - instead I am sitting with a nice looking pile of crap.
 
Another thing if you are driving somewhere you CAN make some changes while in motion - you can go home, or find a hospital. Once you hit emergency and select a hospital the system doesn't wait for you to hit guide after about 2 seconds it just re-routes. I was just playing around - but we had to pull over to re program our original destination.
 
It also tried to send me to a hospital in a different state! granted it might have been marginally closer as we were in Staten Island, but really all in all a pile of crap.
 
It is by far the worst part of an otherwise pleasant car, but a huge disappointment for me.
 
SKIP IT!
 
AND - Don't get me started on the Bluetooth. Apparently in the voice activated phone book "jack"/"mom"/"dad"/"beth" are all too similar sounding to be used so now my whole family is using first AND Middle names. GARBAGE! why couldn't they just pass it through to my own phone's voice recognition like my headset does? also the nav screen would be so nice if it pulled up a numeric keypad?? a visual phone book. the NUVI does, but oh yeah it is fancy - and 1/5th the price! Oh and forget about using nav and phone together - ie to dial a POI to make a reservation? they don't know that the other exists! Horrible execution of technology.
 
Tommy D.
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Re: NAV is USELESS [tommy3102] by remmib
Nov 05, 2007 (5:34 pm)
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Replying to: tommy3102 (Oct 22, 2007 1:01 pm)

I can certainly understand your frustration as I am in the exact situation. I have the Nuvi 360 and leased the CX-9 GT-AWD with Navi. For the most part I get the Navi for the power liftgate, which my wife and I enjoy greatly. I find the BT ok and usable. The Navi is absoultely hopeless in terms of POI....and the sad part is there isn't anything we can do.
On trips, what I'll do is to put the Nuvi in the CX-9, it's silly to have to GPS systems in the car but the CX-9 Navi system isn't going to help when you are in an unfamilar city and need to find restaurants or supermarkets.
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Re: NAV is USELESS [tommy3102] by cynfl1
Nov 19, 2007 (11:49 am)
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Replying to: tommy3102 (Oct 22, 2007 1:01 pm)

I bought my 2007 GT AWD on 7/31/07, and I thought I was the only crazy person around thinking how useless these Nav systems are in these cars! I am very good with directions, so the few times I've had to use the thing, I've literally had to return home to go onto mapqest and print out driving directions!!! Subdivisions that were around for 7-10 years still aren't showing up in this system. Also, a simple trip to the nearest Wal-Mart takes me to the East coast! Restaurant don't show up, nor department stores. Voice recognition? Maybe if I had a Japanese accent would it work??? I'd really like to have my $2,500 back, that's for sure! The power liftgate isn't that impressive to me, either. And when I'm going to my car with groceries, I still have to dig out the smartcard to use the liftgate because there isn't a button on the outside that lifts it. I'm really disappointed and frustrated with a lot of things with this car, and would really like to trade it in, but know I would lose lots of money.
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Re: Nighttime display [gramx10] by cx9rx8owner
Nov 19, 2007 (5:36 pm)
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Replying to: gramx10 (Aug 23, 2007 6:19 am)

Try setting the clock in the Navigation system. This may turn the display to night time at the approperate time.
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CX-9 DVD Player wireless headset by cx9rx8owner
Nov 19, 2007 (5:40 pm)
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I'm disappointed that Mazda uses a Bose surround sound system and DVD player, but the wireless headsets are some cheap no name brand. Does anyone know if there is a better quality replacement that I can get from Best Buy or somewhere else?

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