Present and Future FWD Classic and Special Interest Cars

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#1 of 111 Present and Future FWD Classic and Special Interest Cars by hpmctorque

Apr 21, 2007 (4:47 am)

RWD is so dominant among classic cars that one could almost argue that "classic FWD" is an oxymoron. Yet, there are a few. Examples would include Citroens from the '30s and '40s, as well as some from the '50s and '60s; Cords; early ('60s) Toronados and Eldorados. In addition to the few classics, there are numerous models that could qualify as special interest cars, such as early Saab convertibles, maybe, and the early '80s Chrysler and Dodge converts. Early Honda microcars would also fall in this category, if they're not considered classics. Will any of today's FWD cars become classics? Which ones are candidates for becoming special interest cars?

#2 of 111 Re: Present and Future FWD Classic and Special Interest Cars [hpmctorque] by Mr_Shiftright HOST

Apr 21, 2007 (9:46 am)

Replying to: hpmctorque (Apr 21, 2007 4:47 am)
Well the theory is that the collectible cars of tomorrow are the ones that young people really wanted and enjoyed when they (the cars) were new----or at least they were cars that were associated with glamorous and exciting events when these people were young.
 
So the young get old and now, with some $$$ in their pockets, they attempt to re-create those wonderful feelings, lusts, adventures they had.
 
If this theory be sound, then American FWD cars from the 80s and 90s are surely doomed. One could hardly conjure up a more anonymous unexciting type of car.
 
 However, certain Japanese cars of the FWD persuasion, which are even now being tuned and customized, may indeed become collectible.
 
So that's my bet for FWD....80s and early 90s Civics, Preludes, other FWD Japanese hatches and coupes.

#3 of 111 More by hpmctorque

Apr 22, 2007 (8:14 am)

Early Minis and GTIs are also special interest FWDs. And, who knows, in 2030 a GM X or J car, or Chrysler Omni/Horizen or K-car, or '84 Minivan could be rare enough to be an interesting museum piece, since they marked an important departure in architecture for the American car industry. By then museum goers will have forgotten just how bad most of these cars were, and focus on their historical significance. The last time I saw a Citation was last Fall, while on a trip, and I remember thinking what an uncommon sight they've become. But, then, so are Pintos, but I happened to park next to one just last weekend, in a parking garage. Whoops, almost forgot, Pintos are RWD.

#4 of 111 Re: More [hpmctorque] by Mr_Shiftright HOST

Apr 22, 2007 (9:36 am)

Replying to: hpmctorque (Apr 22, 2007 8:14 am)
I'd bet every penny I own that a Citation or GM J car will never, ever be worth ten dollars in the future. Nobody cares about them, plays with them, fixes them up, restores them, has pictures of them, notices them, saves them, drives them or likes them, near as I can tell. At least I've never noticed this going on in my travels to all the car shows in all the world.

#5 of 111 Re: More [Mr_Shiftright] by andre1969

Apr 22, 2007 (10:11 am)

Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Apr 22, 2007 9:36 am)
I'd bet every penny I own that a Citation or GM J car will never, ever be worth ten dollars in the future. Nobody cares about them, plays with them, fixes them up, restores them, has pictures of them, notices them, saves them, drives them or likes them, near as I can tell.
 
Never say never. Contact me privately and I'll give you instructions on where to send every penny you own. Email is in my profile.

#6 of 111 Re: More [andre1969] by Mr_Shiftright HOST

Apr 22, 2007 (10:14 am)

Replying to: andre1969 (Apr 22, 2007 10:11 am)
I am supremely confident. I have history, mathematics and experience on my side in this particular issue.
 
So what are YOU betting against me?

#7 of 111 Re: More [Mr_Shiftright] by andre1969

Apr 22, 2007 (10:19 am)

Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Apr 22, 2007 10:14 am)
So what are YOU betting against me?
 
How about a low mileage (for its age) 1968 Dodge Dart 270? Only 8667 miles per year!**
 
**winner responsible for pickup and removal of prize. Void where prohibited. Not responsible for wasp stings or maulings by suddenly displaced groundhogs.

#8 of 111 Re: More [andre1969] by neile457

Apr 22, 2007 (1:29 pm)

Replying to: andre1969 (Apr 22, 2007 10:19 am)
PT Cruiser is destined to join this list.

#9 of 111 Re: More [neile457] by andre1969

Apr 23, 2007 (5:45 am)

Replying to: neile457 (Apr 22, 2007 1:29 pm)
PT Cruiser is destined to join this list.
 
Actually, the PT Cruiser may already be there! Now I doubt that it'll ever become a high-dollar collectible like a Hemi Cuda or Tri-Power GTO or some exotic Ferrari or whatever, but it'll definitely retain a cult-like status. As it is now, there's always a good turnout of them at the Chrysler show in Carlisle, PA.
 
And by good turnout, I'm talking like 100+, not like that picture I took with 4 Citations and 1 Phoenix representing the X-body crowd.

#10 of 111 Re: More (andre1969) by hpmctorque

Apr 23, 2007 (11:37 am)

That may be, at least in part, because it's easier to personalize a PT Cruiser than an X-car. That shot of five X-cars was impressive, though, in that there are so few of these on the road.
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