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#8326 of 16705 Re: Unite Here on Toyota's low-wage strategy [dallasdude1] by wiseman Jan 25, 2009 (5:16 pm)
Replying to: dallasdude1 (Jan 25, 2009 3:22 pm) You may want to look up what's happening in Japan after two decades of stagnation. Labor inflexibility is not good. It's tough to be strung along for 20 years then get laid off when you are 60!   "Touch labor"? What has Ron G. touched lately? Value is subjective. Different people have different values and priorities. In fact, that's the only way there can be peaceful cooperation between people. Otherwise, if we all have the exactly same preferences regarding everything, wouldn't we be fighting all the time against each other? Instead of complement each other in what we want and what we offer?   That's why information managers and knowledge workers have value . . . often more value than a horse saddle maker after 1905, for example, but not necessarily more than a maker of collectible horse saddles nowdays. Talk about subjectivity! There is no other way you can reconcile the the two realities: (1) a pitiful experienced and proficient saddle maker going out business in 1915 vs. (2) a craft saddle maker taking his sweet time but making big bucks today! What should be the "fair wage" for a saddle maker anyway? if not through fluctuating market supply and demand.
#8331 of 16705 Re: Unite Here on Toyota's low-wage strategy [imidazol97] by circlew Jan 25, 2009 (6:13 pm)
Replying to: imidazol97 (Jan 25, 2009 2:42 pm) No, let 'em become the new Americans here.   Regards, OW
#8332 of 16705 Re: [] by circlew Jan 25, 2009 (6:15 pm)
I'll try again...let 'em become new Americans who take pride in their work and appreciate their job.   Regards, OW
#8334 of 16705 Lower Wages by circlew Jan 25, 2009 (6:27 pm)
Tough luck, UAW people. Everyone is getting cut. Get ready to take yours.   Strapped U.S. companies, while continuing to slash their work forces, are deploying a once-rare tool to trim labor costs -- pay cuts.   Latest Layoffs       * AMD: 1,100 jobs, 9% of work force.     * ConocoPhillips: 1,350 (4%).     * Pfizer: 2,400 in sales (33% of group).     * Hertz: 4,000 (13%).     * WellPoint: 1,500 (3.6%).     * Circuit City: 30,000 jobs in jeopardy   Big Firms Deepen Job, Wage Cuts   Regards, OW Replies to this message: dallasdude1 (Jan 25, 2009 6:54 pm) gagrice (Jan 25, 2009 7:14 pm) gagrice (Jan 25, 2009 7:17 pm)
#8335 of 16705 Re: Lower Wages [circlew] by dallasdude1 Jan 25, 2009 (6:54 pm)
Replying to: circlew (Jan 25, 2009 6:27 pm) Yeah, were shedding jobs at the rate of a half of a million a month. How long will it take to shed all of the jobs? Nevermind, whats happening overseas. Replies to this message: gagrice (Jan 25, 2009 7:14 pm) gagrice (Jan 25, 2009 7:17 pm)

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