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#8300 of 16738 Re: Unite Here on Toyota's low-wage strategy [wiseman] by dallasdude1 Jan 25, 2009 (12:18 pm)
Replying to: wiseman (Jan 25, 2009 11:53 am) The concept of "illegal immigration" was a union political invention in the late 19th century   http://edgeofthewest.wordpress.com/2008/05/06/inventing-illegal-immigration/
#8301 of 16738 Re: Unite Here on Toyota's low-wage strategy [circlew] by wiseman Jan 25, 2009 (2:01 pm)
Replying to: circlew (Jan 25, 2009 11:59 am) "Kinda how this country started, no?"   Exactly! It's amazing how far this country has gone down the wrong path of creating feudal privileges like they used to do in the Old World. Free exchange, live and let live are good; coercion is wasteful and bad for everyone. Replies to this message: jimbres (Jan 25, 2009 2:15 pm) wiseman (Jan 25, 2009 3:48 pm)
#8302 of 16738 Re: Unite Here on Toyota's low-wage strategy [wiseman] by jimbres Jan 25, 2009 (2:15 pm)
Replying to: wiseman (Jan 25, 2009 2:01 pm) Free exchange, live and let live are good; coercion is wasteful and bad for everyone.   Bingo! You've nailed my political philosophy perfectly. This is exactly what I have in mind when I describe myself as a classical liberal. Replies to this message: wiseman (Jan 25, 2009 3:48 pm)
#8303 of 16738 Re: Unite Here on Toyota's low-wage strategy [circlew] by imidazol97 Jan 25, 2009 (2:42 pm)
Replying to: circlew (Jan 25, 2009 11:59 am) >The "illegal immigrants" run Circles around any UAW...and they APPRECIATE the work as well.   If people from other countries are better workers, then this premise suggests sending all work of all types to workers in other countries...? Right? Replies to this message: circlew (Jan 25, 2009 6:15 pm) dallasdude1 (Jan 25, 2009 3:22 pm) wiseman (Jan 25, 2009 5:16 pm) circlew (Jan 25, 2009 6:13 pm)
#8306 of 16738 Re: Unite Here on Toyota's low-wage strategy [imidazol97] by dallasdude1 Jan 25, 2009 (3:22 pm)
Replying to: imidazol97 (Jan 25, 2009 2:42 pm) If people from other countries are better workers, then this premise suggests sending all work of all types to workers in other countries...? Right?   That stands to reason and your stating the obvious. We have to go to the fact that the non touch labor is a no value added work concept. Just as the gentleman from the Heritage Foundation started stuttering when he was asked "what do you make"? A PHD made a fool on national television. Everyone is aware that these think tanks and foundations are funded by big business and have no peer review whatsoever, unlike major universities. The common man has learned to read and now he must get by the corporate owned media/public relations machine. Even the Japanese, who have brought this value added/touch labor to all of the business schools, use this as sound business practice. Why do we seek the Lean manufacturing and not the CEO compensation issue from the east? Why do these folks, that you hold to high esteem, employ their workers for life? What is the tradition of the 13 month of compensation? What exactly did these folks in these banks produce? Replies to this message: wiseman (Jan 25, 2009 5:16 pm)

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