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Replying to: chikoo (Jan 24, 2009 5:48 pm) You have to ask them as to motive. However, if all of those in congress led by example, and took the $1 a year pay pledge, we might see the UAW forced into a corner. Then again, they might not be moved either. Has anyone asked them to make wage concessions?
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you wanna give all of us people who have to work the Reader's Digest version of your gargantuan posts above? Did anyone read all of that verbage?  I sped-read it and saw that it seemed to be holding our friend Donald Trump in high esteem of some sort. Reader's Digest it for me, dallas. |
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down to the willingness to accept change before death...the UAW lives in dreamland, looking in the mirror daily and thinking that lugnut tighteners and floor sweepers are actually worth the $30-plus an hour they are paid...since everyone in Michigan (remember, since UAW folks only hang out with UAW folk, to them the entire world is not only unionized, but every "skilled" floor sweeper makes enough to own two homes and four cars) thinks like that, the entire state is a case of Alice in Wonderland...they simply do not believe that the world around them has changed, so if the world has not changed, why should they??? The fact that their market share has dropped for the last 20 years is simply not something they see...they just believe in the Divine Right of Corporate Welfare, where if they go and sweep a floor, they deserve $60K yearly... Where almost every employee nationwide has to pay a portion of their health insurance, due to rising costs, the UAW fought a simple $50 monthly shared cost, simply because they deserve everything paid at 100%... If a child were to be observed exhibiting that kind of spoiled temper tantrum behavior, that child would be sent into time-out for 5 years (or an intelliigent parent would spank them until their a** glowed red in the night...that would be me, of course)...but nobody in the union will grow up, they just whine and whine...if they ever really knew what their labors were worth they might stroke out, simply because anywhere else a floor sweeper might get $1 over minimum wage, and it isn't worth even that... When the Big 3 die, management and the design of stupid looking cars will take some of the blame...but the junk coming off the line is the UAW problem...they decide that screws will be left out, window regulators will fall out, and doors will not shut...then they have the GALL to wonder why people will not buy the product... The cure for the UAW problem is simple...a mirror...to see the crap of the last 30 years...but, sadly, they are too damn stupid to see their own junk, like the child who scribbles on a sheet of paper with crayons and thinks it is art... Let's face it..anyone who is a floor sweeper who actually thinks he is worth $60 K yearly would be incapable of being smart enough to see the junk made over the last 30 years... Chapter 11 will be the answer...and stop telling us about the ripple effect...those same suppliers have been part of the junk making for years, so they, too, may need replacement... All they are trying to do is preserve the status quo, the same conditions that have made junk for decades...it needs Chapter 11 to shake out the worthless and start over...we will be better in the long run or else the death will be slower and more painful...the UAW needs a dose of reality, and now is the time... |
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Replying to: dallasdude1 (Jan 24, 2009 5:02 pm)
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Replying to: fordexpo (Jan 24, 2009 4:36 pm) " I guess our taxes have been spent on the losing car industry. I am finished buying these cars that are taxpayer supported every year. NO MORE!!! I will get an import this time since I am being forced to pay for the two big loosers. If Ford can stay out of the bail out money, I will have to support them for doing there best but we will see. No more UAW leaders big mouth sucking noises or the UAW members can purchase from one another. " As many can attest, this is a touchy circumstance. A pet peeve of mine, lose is spelled lose or losing when pluralalized. Loose would be what you are if you were not tight. A great quandary, was it managements ineptness in guaging consumer needs or Uaw's greed in kicking the dead pony or a combination ? Most of your taxpayer money is going toward the banks. So perhaps you will open a checking account in the 1st national bank of comrade Putin. Blast ye not Ford for taking the money . I'ts survival time. Wall St. put them into a recession before the real recession. |
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Replying to: m4d_cow (Jan 24, 2009 6:22 am) |
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Replying to: dallasdude1 (Jan 23, 2009 2:46 pm) Sorry, but brand-new foreign cars - except for the Hyundais and Kias - tend to be more expensive than their domestic competitors. And they retain a higher percentage of their sale price when it comes time to trade them. People who buy foreign cars tend to buy them because they want them, NOT because they can't afford anything better. It's the domestics that are more likely to be sold on the basis of price, or the "deal," as opposed to their merits.
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Replying to: fordexpo (Jan 24, 2009 4:36 pm) "We don't want to borrow any more money. We have sufficient liquidity to fund our transformation plan, which means our business is in a relatively good shape," Mulally told reporters on the sidelines of the National Automobile Dealers Association convention. Kudos to Ford for doing a lot of things right. Even Bill Ford was smart enough to know that he was the wrong person to be CEO, so he hired Mulally. Not like Wagoner and the GM Board of idiots. Let's support Ford and let GM and Chrysler rot.
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Replying to: iluvmysephia1 (Jan 24, 2009 6:40 pm) I notice when he's asked a direct question he brings up Congress, bankers, history, philosophy, phases of the moon, economic theories, political theories, why everybody else are a bunch of crooks, etc., without answering the question in regards to the UAW. As if multiple wrongs of others make the UAW right. |
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