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I have to say that after all of these months posting on here I see that you are making a great effort and that is repectable. You have UAW and family with automotive success interests in the domestic product. Of course you're gonna feel the way you do. I guess I changed my attitude in the late 90's when I saw low-cost cars coming from S.Korea that looked like they were built fairly well. Far from perfect(indeed my first Kia, a '99 Sephia, just held Kia's 3 year and 36,000 mile powertrain Warranty, IIRC)but I liked their small bodies and attention to detail. Kia and yes big bro Hyundai, esp.with the new Genesis project, are looking out for themselves quite well. They're building manufacturing plants with intentions for more plants from both makers. Kia is now looking strongly at making their Mojave pickup truck that will sell, of course, in the U.S. Mitsu has me captured though with this hot new Lancer GTS. My wife and I are diggin' the Rally Red paint job and the sunroof and that monster stereo from Rockford Fosgate. I respect Mitsubishi's building talents and this car handles great and produces no annoying squeaks and rattles.
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Replying to: iluvmysephia1 (Apr 21, 2007 12:24 pm) The fact remains that Korea's domestic content sits at 3%. That wasn't my only problem with it. I did a lot of research yesterday on South Korea, Hyundai, Kia, and the myths of them treating their country's citizens fair with human rights was a real turn off for me. I read buyer testimony's on the net of sales experiences and boy this company has issues on customer service that would make VW blush. I always thought VW, was bad but man some of these people were told to bend over and touch their toes in the service department. I suppose as you say that more and more Hykia products will be built here. That is a good thing. They might not come here so fast if they see Toyota, getting unionized because of the way they are treating older employees. Hyundai's biggest fear would be paying liveable wages and benefits. They right now pay about $14 an hour in Alabama. Since they have a 401K retirement that means the employee contributions aren't very high on those wages because of the cost of living. That just isn't sustainable and you'd have to work till you croak. As far as your Lancer, goes I guess it's made in Japan ? I always thought for some reason they were made in California, but the car I'm must be thinking of is the Eclipse (I Think) ? I like I said to you believe the Lancer, is very stylish. It would be nice if Mitsubishi, would build all their cars here.  Rocky |
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indeed built by Mitsubishi in Japan, yes. No, I am not one to take human rights issues in to play when making an economic decision involving my wife and I. That is, I will admit that, if I allowed myself to get emotionally involved enough through research, as you said you did, I might change my mind. I got good usage out of both of my Kia's and the service department treated me very well at both dealerships I went to for service. I have not heard of Mitsubishi mistreating their employees at all. If anyone has input regarding that, do fire away. I remain very impressed with their automotive product, Warranty and their organization and hard-work ethic I see put in to place. Quite impressive.
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Replying to: iluvmysephia1 (Apr 21, 2007 4:08 pm)  I hope we continue to get updates on the Georgetown plant going UAW. Rocky |
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He also said that Detroit and Michigan could be a hub to develop environmentally friendly fuels to power the automobiles of the future. "I don't want to see the fuel efficient cars in the world built someplace else," he said. "They ought to be built right here in Detroit and the United States of America by UAW workers." Edwards said he would oppose trade agreements that would harm U.S. workers and said he opposes the pending trade agreement between the U.S. and South Korea. He said he supports laws making it easier for unions to organize because "it's absolutely crucial to maintain and strengthen and grow the middle class in this country that we strengthen the right to organize. That we strengthen the power of unions to have a level playing field in the negotiating process. I think this is important for America's economic security." He said as president he would use his bully pulpit "to explain to America what the union movement has meant in the history of this country." http://www.detroitnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070422/NATION/704220324&- - - theme=Nation-Iraq Rocky |
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Any UAW thread has to fall into politics. The UAW has no long term viability without political support. Let's just kill this thread before it descends into a paid political announcement.
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Replying to: lokki (Apr 23, 2007 12:08 pm) |
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...the article has some real howlers, but I guess that Mr. Edwards had to play to his audience. On the other hand, if he really believes what he said... The article contains this snippet: He said as president he would push his plan for universal health care for Americans, paying for some of the cost by ending Bush's tax breaks for individuals making more than $200,000 annually. Let's see...where do most of the people who make more than $200,000 annually live? New York City, Los Angeles, San Francisco, Boston...in other words, the bluest parts of Blue America. In those areas, given the already high levels of state and local taxation, and sky-high housing costs, a $200,000 annual income for a family of four isn't necessarily the ticket to Easy Street. Price a decent house in the Los Angeles metropolitan area some time. Yet Mr. Edwards apparently wants to raise their taxes, even though, in the wake of the 2004 election, Blue State residents were complaining that they already pay a disproportionate share of federal expenditures. (Maybe the real problem is that people don't rationally think about the impact of federal policy, or they are dumb enough to believe that the government will tax only Republicans making six-figure annual salaries.) The article directly quotes him here: "I don't want to see the fuel efficient cars in the world built someplace else," he said. "They ought to be built right here in Detroit and the United States of America by UAW workers." I'm sure his first act as president will be to repeal those federal laws that prevent GM and Ford from building high-quality, fuel-efficient cars here in America. Wait, there are no laws that prevent them from doing this right now. Never mind...
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Replying to: grbeck (Apr 23, 2007 1:45 pm) Rocky, Edward's would go where ever and tell who ever will listen just what they are wanting to hear. Then go back to his mansion and laugh at the folks he has fooled. The pickin's are mighty slim for 2008. I will probably only go vote to try and keep one of them from winning.
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Replying to: gagrice (Apr 23, 2007 3:31 pm) Now more on topic: So do any of you think the UAW, will get the Georgetown Kentucky plant unionized ? If so how much longer do you think it will take ? Do you think other transplants will unionize in the near or distant future ? Thanks, Rocky
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