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Replying to: gagrice (Jan 14, 2009 4:28 pm) On September 22, twenty-five congressional co-sponsors of the measure, including Mike Honda of California, the leading Japanese American in Congress, sent a letter to Hastert and Boehner asking them to bring the resolution to the floor before Congress adjourned for the November elections. But mysteriously, no word was heard from the G.O.P. leadership about when the resolution would be brought to a vote. Exactly what happened next is not clear, but word on the Hill is that the Bush Administration, Michel, and other Japanese lobbyists went to work on Boehner—and on Hastert, who reportedly is hoping to be named ambassador to Japan after he retires and who made clear that he was unhappy with the resolution. The measure could conceivably be revived during the upcoming lame-duck session, but for now it looks like Japan has again bought itself victory on the Hill. http://www.harpers.org/archive/2006/10/sb-cold-comfort-women-1160006345 http://books.google.com/books?id=YC2sViQysogC&pg=PA84&lpg=PA84&dq=at+one+time+th- e+japanese+lobby+was+the+biggest&source=web&ots=ZBbDMHaExO&sig=dLYIvF9tAyqKmxbEl- OfuefEuNvk&hl=en&sa=X&oi=book_result&resnum=1&ct=result
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Replying to: dallasdude1 (Jan 14, 2009 7:01 pm) It is time to hold you head high, know that you had a pretty good run ... and let the weak companies fail with dignity. Eventually, stronger buisnesses will emerge from the ashes. Hopefully without the burdon of UNIONS dragging them down. Unions have outlived their usefulness! |
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Replying to: dallasdude1 (Jan 14, 2009 7:23 pm) I did not even know that the UAW hired Japanese sex slaves. Was this for a party at their Black Lake resort? Or was it a perk written into one of the 2200 pages of work rules? Or as management knows it, 2200 ways to get out of doing an honest days work? |
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Replying to: cooterbfd (Jan 14, 2009 3:52 pm) Absolutely. There are more choices and the major networks have not kept up. While I agree that the Big 3 have largely ignored their CARS (not trucks), the fact is that people have more choices today. Agreed. If you want the best truck buy a D3 vehicle. If you want the best car you need to buy a foreign nameplate. |
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yankabilly, try to think of things this way: 1) if the workers are really skilled enough, they wouldn't get laid off. If they're skilled enough, as soon as they get laid off they'll get another job easily. 2) If the workers are skilled and aren't overpaid, other companies will gladly take them. 3) If they're smart enough they would've boycott UAW rules that force them to join the union. Fact is, most UAW workers are lazy and greedy, wanting the pay but not wanting to do the effort. I detest those kind of people, and they all can drop dead, unemployed for all I care. I worked hard from the bottom and now enjoy the result, payment cuts? never gonna happen to me, not if the company wish to keep one of it's top employees  . Compared to them yes I dare say I'm Superman  *This does NOT mean I blame UAW for our economy or for GM getting screwed. Both GM management and UAW share the guilt for GM's current state. It's not GM's fault the economy is messed, however it's also not the economy's fault Gm gets messed up.
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Agreed. If you want the best truck buy a D3 vehicle. If you want the best car you need to buy a foreign nameplate. Agreed, with slight change: if you want the best small truck buy a Frontier or Tacoma. As for larger trucks, anyone who thinks Nissan Titan is better than F150 or Silverado better get his/her brain checked.
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Replying to: m4d_cow (Jan 15, 2009 2:20 am)
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Replying to: gagrice (Jan 13, 2009 11:21 am)
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Replying to: yankabilly (Jan 15, 2009 3:59 am) This is how things work for most of us, why are you surprised. It's the reason you might shop at 1 grocery store over another, haggle over the price of a car or a house, or negotiate your pay. I have no union, work with other engineers who make different amounts, but am content with what I make. How can that be - because the basis of getting paid what you're worth is the ability to say to your current employer - "I don't like my pay and I'm leaving for better pay at Company BCD". If you can't do that then you're either making the maximum you're worth, OR being paid too much, since you can't find other work paying the same. Similarly what a house or car is worth = what someone is willing to pay for it at any given time.
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Replying to: yankabilly (Jan 15, 2009 3:59 am) Your work is a merchandise that was simply worth less than you think it was - just the same as a used car dealer sets their asking price at $10K and agrees on $6K. As you don't want the government to make you pay 10 grand for that used car, somebody else should not be compelled (read coerced) to pay you $12/hr just because you say so. Ultimately, they offered you took it, end of story. All most unions want is package mediocrity and coerce employers to pay for it as it were top notch performance with no option of actual verification (try to fire some union drunk who show up hour late and has to be cleaned after every single time). Pay this guy as he were master of universe just because I say so, or else. No, thanks.
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