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Replying to: cooterbfd (Jan 14, 2009 3:52 pm) I watch primarily cable Fox, TLC, History, CNBC, etc. There is a difficulty involved for the T3 networks to change themselves and still maintain advertisers which parallels the B3's problems in revamping themselves and adjusting to compete in a new world. Similarly the cable-based companies have fewer controls on what they can and can't do as did the foreign brands coming in with no legacy retired labor force. A very interesting parallel you've brought up. Thanks. >They were CHEAP!!!! I believe another factor in the popularity of small, small cars in the 70s and 80s was that they were economical on gas. The term was (is) econoboxes for the little ones. |
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Replying to: fezo (Jan 14, 2009 3:56 pm) I need help on this one: were the changes in the Civic/Corolla primarily sheet metal or were the underpinnings modified in those changes. |
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Replying to: gagrice (Jan 14, 2009 4:28 pm) But, just like the possibility if the D3 don't live up to congress demands the loans can be called in, there lies the possibility that Congress can call in the banks TARP loans if they don't start loaning the money. AT least GMAC took their $6 bil and started giving it to customers. |
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Replying to: gagrice (Jan 14, 2009 4:19 pm) The Cutlass/Regal/Grand Prix came out in 88 on the new GM10 chassis. The old A cars were kept for rentals and low priced mid cars.
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Replying to: yankabilly (Jan 14, 2009 12:45 pm) The fools here are hell bound on blaming this nations ills on the UAW. Its a fools errand at best and nothing but a silly argument as we see the imports/transplants suffering. In round one we saw all the asinine loans made that resulted in foreclosures, gee those folks were brilliant. Then we see plant closings which will also result in more foreclosures to those who were worthy of loans, thats going to make things better. Over 70,000 businesses will close this year. Just how many jobs have to be lost before we see this as a national thing? Each stimulus check given has done more to stimulate the economy in China than ours as was intended. Get ready, the first things these families will cut are cell phones and cable TV. Then the next wave brings some more cut backs. People are going to put off cars and homes, until they feel secure in their employment. It stands to reason that the UAW has caused this all and not the jackasses in those banks. Just stating the obvious, that your energy might be better spent on the mega trillion bail out of Wall Street. All I see here is class envy and an ill fated pathetic attempt to vent on the UAW as a scapegoat. We have seen the Wall Street folks reduced to drinking Folgers and Starbucks reserved for the real elitist. Most of those you thought were well off, were nothing but an illusion. Leasing cars and living on the margin, to appear affluent. Phoney people conned/duped the American public. Look at your 401K and tell me that the UAW took it too. Bush/Cheney will be right behind you in the unemployment line (wink) (wink). Its the economy stupid. If it weren't McCain might be president on the 20th. The first step to recovery is admission. Only a seriously retarded person would heed advise from those who have raped them. The GOP wasn't and never ever be supported by the UAW and or organized labor. You have but days to vent, so enjoy. Save money! Live better!
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Replying to: gagrice (Jan 14, 2009 4:28 pm) On September 22, twenty-five congressional co-sponsors of the measure, including Mike Honda of California, the leading Japanese American in Congress, sent a letter to Hastert and Boehner asking them to bring the resolution to the floor before Congress adjourned for the November elections. But mysteriously, no word was heard from the G.O.P. leadership about when the resolution would be brought to a vote. Exactly what happened next is not clear, but word on the Hill is that the Bush Administration, Michel, and other Japanese lobbyists went to work on Boehner—and on Hastert, who reportedly is hoping to be named ambassador to Japan after he retires and who made clear that he was unhappy with the resolution. The measure could conceivably be revived during the upcoming lame-duck session, but for now it looks like Japan has again bought itself victory on the Hill. http://www.harpers.org/archive/2006/10/sb-cold-comfort-women-1160006345 http://books.google.com/books?id=YC2sViQysogC&pg=PA84&lpg=PA84&dq=at+one+time+th- e+japanese+lobby+was+the+biggest&source=web&ots=ZBbDMHaExO&sig=dLYIvF9tAyqKmxbEl- OfuefEuNvk&hl=en&sa=X&oi=book_result&resnum=1&ct=result
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Replying to: dallasdude1 (Jan 14, 2009 7:01 pm) It is time to hold you head high, know that you had a pretty good run ... and let the weak companies fail with dignity. Eventually, stronger buisnesses will emerge from the ashes. Hopefully without the burdon of UNIONS dragging them down. Unions have outlived their usefulness! |
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Replying to: dallasdude1 (Jan 14, 2009 7:23 pm) I did not even know that the UAW hired Japanese sex slaves. Was this for a party at their Black Lake resort? Or was it a perk written into one of the 2200 pages of work rules? Or as management knows it, 2200 ways to get out of doing an honest days work? |
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Replying to: cooterbfd (Jan 14, 2009 3:52 pm) Absolutely. There are more choices and the major networks have not kept up. While I agree that the Big 3 have largely ignored their CARS (not trucks), the fact is that people have more choices today. Agreed. If you want the best truck buy a D3 vehicle. If you want the best car you need to buy a foreign nameplate. |
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yankabilly, try to think of things this way: 1) if the workers are really skilled enough, they wouldn't get laid off. If they're skilled enough, as soon as they get laid off they'll get another job easily. 2) If the workers are skilled and aren't overpaid, other companies will gladly take them. 3) If they're smart enough they would've boycott UAW rules that force them to join the union. Fact is, most UAW workers are lazy and greedy, wanting the pay but not wanting to do the effort. I detest those kind of people, and they all can drop dead, unemployed for all I care. I worked hard from the bottom and now enjoy the result, payment cuts? never gonna happen to me, not if the company wish to keep one of it's top employees  . Compared to them yes I dare say I'm Superman  *This does NOT mean I blame UAW for our economy or for GM getting screwed. Both GM management and UAW share the guilt for GM's current state. It's not GM's fault the economy is messed, however it's also not the economy's fault Gm gets messed up.
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