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Replying to: 62vetteefp (Jan 12, 2009 5:30 am) Regards, OW |
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The Blame GameManagement will say, "The UAW is responsible for all the problems at GM and Ford!" The truth: Market share is the problem at GM and Ford. The automobile Industry is highly profitable – and it is also highly competitive. To succeed, companies must have products that attract customers. UAW members don’t design vehicles, nor are union members responsible for sales, marketing, fuel efficiency, or the other factors which have led to a decline in market share for these companies. In fact, UAW members also work at some very successful auto assembly and supply companies, such as NUMMI, Lear, JCI and American Axle.Wherever our members work, we are taking responsibility for assisting these companies in maintaining quality and productivity. According to the latest data from industry experts like JD Power,UAW-made vehicles are outpacing the competition when it comes to vehicle dependability. Go ahead and blame the UAW for burning your turkey too. |
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Replying to: dallasdude1 (Jan 12, 2009 7:24 pm) Agreed. This is fundamental. Simplistically, why is this?: Market Share is low because vehicles are not competitive. Vehicles are not competitive because quality and content are not competitive. Quality and content are not there because they cost more. Costs were reduced because company has very high costs. Company has very high costs because of restrictive, expensive contracts. Company has restrictive, expensive contracts because without them company would have lost $billions in very long term strikes, might have gone bankrupt. Company had risk of very expensive long term strikes because of power of UAW. Company has UAW because they are laying over a barrel and union has too much control. See?
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Management blames UAW, UAW blames management. This practice keeps going on with neither parties admitting that they both are ruining GM at the same time...
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Replying to: m4d_cow (Jan 12, 2009 11:25 pm) Could you back up your statement "Management blames UAW" with anything in the last, oh say, 5 years or even longer? I do remember the management issuing statements that they lost xx amounts of dollars during the last strike but nothing that says they blame the UAW for all their problems.
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Replying to: 62vetteefp (Jan 13, 2009 3:55 am) Regards, OW
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Replying to: 62vetteefp (Jan 13, 2009 3:55 am) I keep hearing legacy costs are killing us from GM management. That sounds like they are blaming the UAW. Those are some of the costs negotiated by the UAW with strikes. Wagoner has been careful to word his statements so that he does not offend the UAW. If not for the Union votes there would be NO bailout. Congress is not giving GM money because they like the company. It is pandering to the working class voters. |
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Replying to: gagrice (Jan 13, 2009 5:22 am)
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| I keep hearing "UAW demands the unreaasonable", "legacy costs", "Bailout proposal almost rejected because UAW refuse to accept the new wage policy", etc.. No, both parties are being smart not to directly blame each other, but even kids can see through those words. | |
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Replying to: circlew (Jan 13, 2009 4:30 am)
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