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Just curious, but why is it so darn hard for you guys to accept the fact that both GM management board and UAW are constantly sending GM closer to it's doom? I mean it's so obvious from business standpoint.
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Replying to: yankabilly (Jan 12, 2009 7:54 am) The group of some 50 or more workers marched up and down outside the conference center in chilly but sunny weather, chanting such slogans as “Bush says cut back, we say fight back” and holding signs including “No millionaire left behind” and “Out of a job yet? Keep buying foreign.” The UAW, which made landmark givebacks on wages and health benefits in its 2007 negotiations with the companies, has called the conditions attached to the loans unfair and promised to work with the incoming administration of President-elect Barack Obama to have them removed from the loan agreements. GM officials said talks with the UAW about further concessions has begun. -- Reuters-second story All these stories here are interesting. Consumer Reports has the same bypass excuse however saying they're just not as reliable. |
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Replying to: gagrice (Jan 12, 2009 8:14 am) During the 1950s and 1960s, UAW members became one of the best paid groups of industrial workers in the country — placing them solidly in the middle class of American society. By the end of this period, changes in the global economy, competition from European and Japanese automobile makers, and management decisions at the U.S. automakers had already started to significantly reduce the profits of the major auto makers and set the stage for the drastic changes in the 1970s. The UAW disaffiliated from the AFL-CIO on July 1, 1968, after Reuther and AFL-CIO President George Meany could not come to agreement I still don't find a list of strikes through the 50s and 60s and 70s against the automakers.
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Replying to: imidazol97 (Jan 12, 2009 10:40 am) UAW Timeline A couple more are mentioned in this story. (Flint Journal)
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Replying to: steve_ (Jan 12, 2009 11:50 am)
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Replying to: 62vetteefp (Jan 12, 2009 11:54 am)  I would imagine it would be hard to find a year in the last 50 that some UAW local did not have a walk-out strike. Their history is based on intimidation. Something the leadership is trying to play down. Just an example is the bailout by Bush. Why would he bother other than trying to help out the economy. And that is not good enough for the UAW. When will the Members get it through their thick skulls. There is NO MORE MONEY FOR GOLD PLATED HEALTH CARE. Times are tough and the members and the retirees are going to have to start carrying some of the load. If they think that Obama has a health care plan that they get for FREE. I got another bridge for sale. Obama and Hillary campaigned on the same platform. Universal Health Care with premiums to be paid by those that are working. That means the workers get to pay for themselves AND those that are unemployed. No freebies for the High paid UAW workers. |
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Replying to: 62vetteefp (Jan 12, 2009 5:30 am) Regards, OW |
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The Blame GameManagement will say, "The UAW is responsible for all the problems at GM and Ford!" The truth: Market share is the problem at GM and Ford. The automobile Industry is highly profitable – and it is also highly competitive. To succeed, companies must have products that attract customers. UAW members don’t design vehicles, nor are union members responsible for sales, marketing, fuel efficiency, or the other factors which have led to a decline in market share for these companies. In fact, UAW members also work at some very successful auto assembly and supply companies, such as NUMMI, Lear, JCI and American Axle.Wherever our members work, we are taking responsibility for assisting these companies in maintaining quality and productivity. According to the latest data from industry experts like JD Power,UAW-made vehicles are outpacing the competition when it comes to vehicle dependability. Go ahead and blame the UAW for burning your turkey too. |
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Replying to: dallasdude1 (Jan 12, 2009 7:24 pm) Agreed. This is fundamental. Simplistically, why is this?: Market Share is low because vehicles are not competitive. Vehicles are not competitive because quality and content are not competitive. Quality and content are not there because they cost more. Costs were reduced because company has very high costs. Company has very high costs because of restrictive, expensive contracts. Company has restrictive, expensive contracts because without them company would have lost $billions in very long term strikes, might have gone bankrupt. Company had risk of very expensive long term strikes because of power of UAW. Company has UAW because they are laying over a barrel and union has too much control. See?
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