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Replying to: dallasdude1 (Jan 11, 2009 8:54 pm) |
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Replying to: smithed (Jan 12, 2009 7:52 am) We do have just about the highest corporate tax rate in the World. Good question, good points. |
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Replying to: imidazol97 (Jan 12, 2009 7:16 am) I don't think it was an issue until the imports started building cars in the USA for less money than the Domestics. Add to that the open ended health care coverage for working and retired UAW workers and it is Unsustainable costs.
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The libs are framing the auto bailout debate as a national health insurance issue. They are saying, see, without socialized medicine, the auto industry can't be profitable. What they fail to tell you, is that Toyota and Honda are also paying their worker's health care, yet their total hourly wages are $45 compared to $75 for GM! Warran Buffet, supporter of "The One" said it: these numbers are unsustainable. Period. They have to declare bankruptcy, send those union contracts into a shredder, and start all over negotiating. And, I don't see Obama pushing card check either. I think, just as one poster said, he's a loose canon. We really don't know him at all. |
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The most since the 1940s From the Philadelphia newspaper: 2.8 Million Jobs Vanish |
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Just curious, but why is it so darn hard for you guys to accept the fact that both GM management board and UAW are constantly sending GM closer to it's doom? I mean it's so obvious from business standpoint.
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Replying to: yankabilly (Jan 12, 2009 7:54 am) The group of some 50 or more workers marched up and down outside the conference center in chilly but sunny weather, chanting such slogans as “Bush says cut back, we say fight back” and holding signs including “No millionaire left behind” and “Out of a job yet? Keep buying foreign.” The UAW, which made landmark givebacks on wages and health benefits in its 2007 negotiations with the companies, has called the conditions attached to the loans unfair and promised to work with the incoming administration of President-elect Barack Obama to have them removed from the loan agreements. GM officials said talks with the UAW about further concessions has begun. -- Reuters-second story All these stories here are interesting. Consumer Reports has the same bypass excuse however saying they're just not as reliable. |
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Replying to: gagrice (Jan 12, 2009 8:14 am) During the 1950s and 1960s, UAW members became one of the best paid groups of industrial workers in the country — placing them solidly in the middle class of American society. By the end of this period, changes in the global economy, competition from European and Japanese automobile makers, and management decisions at the U.S. automakers had already started to significantly reduce the profits of the major auto makers and set the stage for the drastic changes in the 1970s. The UAW disaffiliated from the AFL-CIO on July 1, 1968, after Reuther and AFL-CIO President George Meany could not come to agreement I still don't find a list of strikes through the 50s and 60s and 70s against the automakers.
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Replying to: imidazol97 (Jan 12, 2009 10:40 am) UAW Timeline A couple more are mentioned in this story. (Flint Journal)
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Replying to: steve_ (Jan 12, 2009 11:50 am)
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