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Replying to: imidazol97 (Jan 12, 2009 6:12 am) You have touched on a couple interesting issues. First the schools. I was driving past our local middle school and a member of our church was changing the sign out in front. I stopped and found out he has volunteered to change the signs weekly at all three local schools. They have cut back on maintenance and do not have a paid Union person to do that job. This is a fairly affluent town. Black Lake presents another idea. I doubt it would get support as a National Park. It could be donated to the State as the Walter Reuther state park if it is as nice as some here say it is. The UAW could bid on the hotel and golf concession and solve their red ink issue. Many private parks and historic places get donated to the state. They could incorporate a UAW museum as a tourist attraction. The UAW did play a minor role in helping the working class in this country. 
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Replying to: gagrice (Jan 12, 2009 6:59 am) Today, they have Nissan (Datsun), Toyota, Honda, VW (Audi), Mercedes, Jaguar, Volvo, Suzuki, Hundai/Kid, all lined up to sell cars here. Have I forgotten some brands (I know Jaguar Volvo are Ford and being sold)? In 1962 other brands competing with Chrysler, Ford, and GM were...? American Motors? Studebaker/Packard (on their way out), VW. Mercedes (barely), Opal, --who can add to this list. There weren't many and penetration was low for AMC and Studebaker. As more brands became accepted as the foreign cars came in, the US brands would lose market share. I'm not sure how I can put the UAW into that. Didn't they have some big strikes before 1962 which of course cost more for building the US brand cars.
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"Its absurd to grant all these tax breaks to wealthy corporations and wait for the trickle down/supply side golden shower." I've wondered the exact opposite: why do we tax corporations at all? If we taxed only the profits made by the owners (stock holders) on dividends, stock sales and on the incomes of the employees wouldn't that make more sense. I don't understand why capital gains (to stock holders) are taxed at such a low rate, isn't that income, too? It is a shame that work is taxed at a higher rate than getting money from someone else's work.
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Replying to: imidazol97 (Jan 12, 2009 4:48 am)  Don't forget in a NON-union shop they can let you go at any time. That 2-week notice went out years ago by lobbiest of the NON-union companies. So when you get laid off do to economic hard times in a NON-union shop you must go down town and file for unemployment and defend for you're self and make little over $500.00 per week. In a UNION shop the Union and EMPLOYER work together to set up the unemployment and work shops to find you another JOB and pay you the $500.00 plus sub-pay for a few months to help you along untill you find another job when you're sub-pay runs out then you are paid just the $500.00
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Replying to: dallasdude1 (Jan 11, 2009 8:54 pm) |
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Replying to: smithed (Jan 12, 2009 7:52 am) We do have just about the highest corporate tax rate in the World. Good question, good points. |
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Replying to: imidazol97 (Jan 12, 2009 7:16 am) I don't think it was an issue until the imports started building cars in the USA for less money than the Domestics. Add to that the open ended health care coverage for working and retired UAW workers and it is Unsustainable costs.
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The libs are framing the auto bailout debate as a national health insurance issue. They are saying, see, without socialized medicine, the auto industry can't be profitable. What they fail to tell you, is that Toyota and Honda are also paying their worker's health care, yet their total hourly wages are $45 compared to $75 for GM! Warran Buffet, supporter of "The One" said it: these numbers are unsustainable. Period. They have to declare bankruptcy, send those union contracts into a shredder, and start all over negotiating. And, I don't see Obama pushing card check either. I think, just as one poster said, he's a loose canon. We really don't know him at all. |
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The most since the 1940s From the Philadelphia newspaper: 2.8 Million Jobs Vanish |
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Just curious, but why is it so darn hard for you guys to accept the fact that both GM management board and UAW are constantly sending GM closer to it's doom? I mean it's so obvious from business standpoint.
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