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Re: gagrice... [steve_] by manegi
Jan 10, 2009 (4:15 pm)
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Replying to: steve_ (Jan 10, 2009 12:22 pm)

About currency intervention by Japan...
 
Last time Bank of Japan intervened in the currency market was March 2004. And that was to counter a very sharp appreciation of the Yen (breaching 100Yen/USD). Today it is more like 90 Yen / USD - So it has been appreciating in the last four years, with no intervention by BOJ.
 
And if we go back further, in 1985 Yen was 240/USD. Thus in the last 23 years, it has appreciated against the USD by 266%. So if Japan is manipulating its currency, then it is not doing a very good job of it.
 
The Auto industry blogs repeatedly bring up this issue (without any specific data to back it up....), however one has to consider a) If companies like Toyota keep on moving production outside Japan, how relevant is Yen manipulation?; b) If Japanese manufacturing is benefiting from currency manipulation, how is it that Mazda or Isuzu (domestic production only) are not "benefiting" (in terms of improving profitability), but Toyota and Honda (moving production overseas) are?
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Re: clinto/uaw on healthcare [dallasdude1] by gagrice
Jan 10, 2009 (4:15 pm)
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Replying to: dallasdude1 (Jan 10, 2009 3:53 pm)

That is all good trivial information. The question still unanswered is how is a government that cannot even keep their own system clean going to do better than the HMOs?
 
A criminal's perspective on easy fraud
In a recent interview with NBC News, a man who made millions of dollars by defrauding Medicare before his arrest explained how easy it was to steal from the government.
 
"First of all, you create a corporation," he said. "There are some people who are like facilitators, who tell you what it is that Medicare requires." One requirement is to buy some props -- medical equipment and office furniture -- that can help make the corporation appear legitimate during rare inspections by Medicare officials. "A lot of times an inspector doesn't visit a corporation more than once a year," he claimed.
 
One thing he found shocking was how agreeable Medicare was in paying his phony claims, even after patients whose names were used without permission filed complaints. "Why is Medicare paying" he asked. "Medicare keeps on paying, so who's at fault? I think the government is at fault, the government doesn't have any control of this."
 
The man said stealing from Medicare can be a very lucrative endeavor. "If in a year you want $6 million or $8 million you can do it."
 
One Medicare fraud suspect, who is now a fugitive, used to drive a $200,000 Phantom Rolls Royce. "Everyone should be outraged by it," said Ogrosky, "and should be concerned about their taxpayer dollars going to fund this personal wealth that we're seeing in these people who are a really just thieves."
 
Federal law enforcement official said they've seen other Medicare criminals also living extravagantly from their ill-gotten gains.
 
"We've seized luxury homes on waterfront properties. We've seized boats, we've seized bank accounts, jewelry worth thousands of dollars," said Delaney. "They're just killing the Medicare program and living the high-life off of it."

 
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22184921/page/2/
 
The Federal government needs to fix their broken Medicare program, before they expand further. I don't think they are capable of doing that with so many levels of incompetence in our government. They have managed to hose up the banking system, now we want them to totally destroy our health care system.
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Re: gagrice... [manegi] by gagrice
Jan 10, 2009 (4:30 pm)
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Replying to: manegi (Jan 10, 2009 4:15 pm)

The Auto industry blogs repeatedly bring up this issue (without any specific data to back it up....)
 
You have to consider that article was written by a UAW leader with an agenda. He would like to dump the blame for the mess in the Auto industry, he and his colleagues have created, onto anyone or any country. The UAW would say anything to deflect from their own part in the collapse. The 4 Horsemen was a very lame attempt, with little or no truth in fact, mostly fiction. Just one example:
 
In the late 1990s a barrel of oil sold for $10. The Big 3 enjoyed strong sales and consistent profits
 
GM did not make a decent profit throughout the 1990s when they were selling SUVs and PU trucks as fast as their little fingers could go. Of course it did not help that the UAW decided to strike right in the middle of a chance at making a decent profit. Wagoner is to blame. When the UAW went on strike in 1998 he could have gotten rid of the UAW millstone around his neck for good. He could have just shut down and moved every plant out of the country. It would have cost a few billion, while they still had a few billion in the bank. Now they are so broke they will have to borrow money just to pay the bankruptcy attorneys.
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Re: gagrice... [manegi] by manegi
Jan 10, 2009 (4:36 pm)
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Replying to: manegi (Jan 10, 2009 4:15 pm)

it has appreciated against the USD by 266%
 
Sorry, a typo - it is 166%
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Re: gagrice... [manegi] by steve_ HOST
Jan 10, 2009 (4:43 pm)
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Replying to: manegi (Jan 10, 2009 4:36 pm)

Just a fyi, but after posting, you may edit your post for 30 minutes.
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Socialized health services or not by manegi
Jan 10, 2009 (7:47 pm)
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I am by no means an expert here (some other posters here seem to have a much deeper understanding of this issue), but Japan has a National Health Insurance scheme (we all have to pay into the scheme, and then our medical expenses - or 70% of them - are covered by the insurance) which seems to satisfy the definition of a "socialized health service". You pay as a % of your income, but the returns you receive are based on your usage of the system. Thus high income groups pay a lot more than they get (since usually they also maintain better health)(I must have paid 20x more than what I have received from the system....).
 
This system, while great for the below median income group, suffers from two major disadvantages (and this is not just my opinion, but a debate going on in Japan) :
 
1. It encourages inefficiencies. Hospitals have an incentive to keep people in hospitals for as long as possible (to increase occupancy rate - like a hotel...), since they can then charge National insurance for that. When my daughter was born, my wife was ready to go back home after two days (she was in the hospital because a C-section was required), but the Doctor told me "What is the hurry? She can stay here for another five days (the Insurance cover is for a maximum of seven days), so why go home and wash dishes? Here every thing is take care of, ha ha!". You get the point.
2. It is (like the US SS system) a sort of a ponzi scheme, in the sense that the insurance payments are based on the assumption that the population will keep on growing. Now that it is actually declining, the system is in a crisis, and they are starting to reduce the coverage (so the Government is now implementing a "cap" - where costs above a certain amount will require a larger percentage payment by the patient). Obviously for those who are healthier than average, the benefits of this scheme will continue to decline.
 
There is a third (longer term) disadvantage too - Because this system can encourage the Hospitals and Pharmaceutical companies to gang up and gouge the insurance, Japan mandates a reduction in pricing for prescription drugs (e.g "7% lower this year than last year"). While this may solve the problem of over pricing, this reduces the returns Japanese pharmaceutical companies can get on their investments (since the price will always go down), and thus cannot compete with the likes of Glaxo Smith Kline (who are not mandated to reduce drug prices - and thus can charge whatever the market can bear).
 
I am not sure which system is better, but just thought that since I live in a socialized system, this perspective might be helpful.
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Re: Socialized health services or not [manegi] by steve_ HOST
Jan 10, 2009 (8:09 pm)
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Replying to: manegi (Jan 10, 2009 7:47 pm)

I'm really trying hard you guys, and if you can relate auto worker's health care to car prices, that's one thing. But just kicking around the merits of private vs nationalized health care just doesn't seem topical.
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Re: clinto/uaw on healthcare [gagrice] by dallasdude1
Jan 11, 2009 (3:42 am)
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Replying to: gagrice (Jan 10, 2009 4:15 pm)

The question still unanswered is how is a government that cannot even keep their own system clean going to do better than the HMOs?
 
So there a case where someone takes advantage of the system. There is no fool proof system. Large banks have been had and don't want the bad press. Even Walmart has been conned. Big time! These are kept secret because they are bad for business. I won't go into the scams and add to the problem. However, they were anything but clever.
 
Medicare and Medicaid are keeping less pencil pushers, no value added, folks out of the system. This is waste and so is the method in which over 50 different companies pay claims in 50 different states, with their own rules.
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Re: gagrice... [steve_] by dallasdude1
Jan 11, 2009 (4:23 am)
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Replying to: steve_ (Jan 10, 2009 12:22 pm)

taxes, trade policy, health care and energy
 
First of all, we know that parts are brought into this country and put together to avoid VAT. Its the same manner in which companies like to operate in Texas as oppose to other states. Fact is that if it weren't for the news, I wouldn't even know that we are in recession. Them fools are still building homes here. The United States has provided a better economic climate for business and hence we are the largest consumer nation on the planet.
 
Then the currency manipulation is a fact of life. The central banks do this all the time. They do it to keep people like George Soros from making a cool billion in one days, as he has done in the past. Its legal and there are people out there looking for opportunities to do just this.
 
The article is well written and if you can't see the point. You just don't understand macro economics. I'll go a step further and state that you have no earthly idea of what the end of the UAW/Big Three means.
 
At best Toyota/Honda will be a niche market, much like MAC computers (10%) and China/India will make the rest. They might buy the logo/brand, but the end product will employ their population.
 
Does anyone know if the big drug companies have to pay taxes if they are based in Puerto Rico?

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