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Replying to: okal (Jan 09, 2009 9:26 pm) That all makes perfect sense to me. Though I do believe the South has a bit more obesity health issues than the NE or the West. The West is not worth looking at. The labor market would be ok. Environmental regulations would keep any industry from considering CA, OR or WA. Maybe AZ as they are right to work, (no nasty UAW to bankrupt the company). As far as tax breaks. Michigan is offering $335 million in tax breaks for manufacturing companies to come up into god's country. Probably not enough to offset the cost of labor. You know they would be mobbed by UAW organizers before the first week of production. I think Michigan is at a crossroads. Ohio also. They need to pass a right to work law. That will make them more attractive. Not every worker in the UAW is happy to be paying dues to buy plush golf courses they cannot use or afford. I would imagine most of the new hires are pretty upset with the lopsided contract they work under. It is amazing how the UAW parallels the US government. The older people are selling out the next several generations to keep their own life style intact. |
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Replying to: okal (Jan 09, 2009 9:26 pm) These Americans don't think about what is really going on. Building their product for the lowest possible cost is what American capitalism is all about. You can't blame companies from moving jobs to states with the most "business friendly" laws like the ones you mentioned. Two states I've lived in, NY and Florida, are good examples. When I was in NY every corporate merger or buyout resulted in a loss of jobs for the NY plant. Here in Florida I love reading about mergers and buyouts because the Florida plants see a net increase in jobs.
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Replying to: mikefm58 (Jan 10, 2009 6:20 am) It does not take a rocket scientist to see which states have healthy economies and which do not. If you live in a right to work state you are less likely to be unemployed than in the states where there is NO FREEDOM of CHOICE for the worker. With the push for EFCA by the Unions and the Democrats you can look for an even wider margin of industry moving to states that are business friendly. I am fully aware that Unions have played a big part in giving the working class a higher standard of living. The UAW pushed it over the top when unskilled line workers make more than professionals with college degrees. Proof is the fact that UAW companies are NOT able to compete with other companies in the USA let alone other countries. Like it or not we are competing globally. Until the rest of the world reaches a higher standard of living we will be dragged down. My kids are not doing as well as I did without a college education. My advice to all new hires in UAW and other unskilled trade Unions. Go back to school while you can still mooch off of mom and dad.
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Replying to: dallasdude1 (Jan 09, 2009 7:42 pm) Regards, OW |
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Replying to: manegi (Jan 09, 2009 8:26 pm) Costs will need to be razor thin for some time to come. Regards, OW |
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Replying to: mikefm58 (Jan 10, 2009 6:20 am) Regards, OW |
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Replying to: gagrice (Jan 10, 2009 7:12 am) Regrds, OW |
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but still Wal*Mart is the evil enemy? Umm...how can you avoid Chinese-made products anymore, anyway? Might as well join 'em if ya can't beat 'em, eh? Word is it that unionization is starting to spread in to hospitals in southern Arizona. Yikes, the worker telling me this had to see my jaw drop down, but our "right to work state" of AZ is changing a bit. Seems the lowly hospital worker is tired of being pushed around and wants "representation" with worker-employer issues and wants unionization. News about dues...and well-represented hospital workers. Now that's progressive! Great news. 
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Replying to: iluvmysephia1 (Jan 10, 2009 8:35 am) Great stuff! Regards, OW |
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Replying to: gagrice (Jan 09, 2009 7:55 pm) Can't buy it. All I see is a bunch of dirty hippies with their ripped and faded blue jeans, long hair, love beads, peace signs, tie-dye shirts, and granny glasses! They drive around in their VW buses and smoking pot and listening to their Beatles albums! I see mass suicide when reality sets in. 
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