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Replying to: 62vetteefp (Jan 02, 2009 6:25 pm) When the UAW claims it as an asset in the Pension trust it has one value (Very High). When they get their tax bill they beat the value down to nothing for the township's tax base. The assessor is probably afraid to say much as they will send the guys with baseball bats around to see him. So how does this UAW resort for the fat cat leaders and UAW cronies benefit Michigan? The UAW members being sheep think the leaders have their best interest in mind. Very foolish thinking. |
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ex: It was Tiger Stadium and the Pontiac Silverdome when I left in 1990...have the names changed???...when the Dome was built, Oakland County residents were "guaranteed" that they would never have to put a dime into the stadium...but, every year since it opened, Oakland County folks have had to contribute $800,000 a YEAR to keep it afloat...they shoulda let it die and bulldoze it, along with the Lions... steve: you mentioned about the UAW and the War of 1812...that happens to be accurate...Walter Reuther's great-great-great-great grandfather was upset at the treatment of the soldiers, and was going to organize a strike unless they received TWO bowls of rice daily, instead of just one bowl...oh, wait, that was the Chinese army, and I may have my geography slightly wrong...did the Chinese fight the British on American soil in 1812, or have I been staying up too late at night watching the marathon Twilight Zone episodes on SciFi network??? I sense my IQ waning rapidly......................... 
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Heard on the news today a Chinese citizen wanted to speak to the media about his baby that got sick from tainted Chinese baby formula but the Chinese government would not let him . . . yet Americans will quickly buy these CFL bulbs ( All MADE IN CHINA ) to save a few dollars on their electric bill here in the states ! The Japanese government makes it WAY harder on American car companies , GM,Ford and Chrysler who would love to do business there and build cars in Japan like many of them do in China,South America,etc. While we give an open door policy to the Japanese auto companies in doing business here,yet Americans will buy Toyotas,Hondas,Lexus,Nissans,etc. never thinking or caring about this. |
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Replying to: okal (Jan 02, 2009 8:02 pm) It is the law. Our Democrat Congress last year past an energy bill that MANDATES all light bulbs sold in 2012 will be CFLs or non incandescent. NO CFLs are made in the USA. That is several 1000 jobs that the so called labor party has forced over seas. As far as domestic cars being sold in Japan. There is no restriction or tariffs on US cars being sold in Japan. THEY DON"T WANT THE CRAP WE BUILD.
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Replying to: okal (Jan 02, 2009 8:02 pm) MNF
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Replying to: 62vetteefp (Jan 02, 2009 4:26 am) This statement is way overused and is untrue. Wagoner is doing damage control by blaming the issue on today's economy. He is trying to deflect awareness of his own accountability for GM's failures. While the economy is very tough and even the J3 are finding it difficult, they have money in the bank to weather a downturn, and GM does not. Even Ford is doing better. GM could not make money even while sales were gangbusters with SUVs and trucks. GM is extremely fragile and this is due to the poor decisions, most of them over the past 14 years with Wagoner in charge. Even if GMs costs get under control, their more fundamental problem is that they are way oversized for the amount of product that appeals to the US consumer and they need to change that. Their "recovery plan" combines a lot of best-case scenarios into a highly optimistic and unlikely set of events - the US economy WILL improve in the second half of 2009 - truck sales WILL recover - the Volt WILL be successful and generate halo effects - the VEBA WILL be funded - US consumers WILL continue to find GM's products interesting enough to maintain or increase market share This is a very unlikely set of conditions and if any one of them don't meet optimistic expectations then GM is back in the dumper. So what is the chance that all of these will occur? Why is the $$MM salaried/year Wagoner believing this? I wonder if he even has another contingency plan other than begging for more taxpayer money and blaming the economy? |
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Replying to: gagrice (Jan 02, 2009 9:01 pm) Yep! A few weeks ago, On C-Span, some congressman was addressing Palosi and company about this subject. From what I gathered, all manufacturer and sales of incandesent bulbs will stop in 2012, as you said. The law also states that no CFL bulbs can be manufactured here. Something to do with the EPA and mercury. Therefore China, the only country manufacturing them, will have us as a captive audiance and be able to charge whatever they wish. That is, unless GE, Phillips, and the rest decide to move their manufacturing facilities off shore or south of the border. How many folks will that put out of a job? Needless to say, he was addressing deaf ears. FWIW: I recently replaced one of my outside spotlights with a CFL. What a piece of crap. The long "bulb" extends to the front glass so the reflector is severely hampered. To stand in front of the bulb and look directly at it, it is quite bright, but the light can't make it's way into the yard. To add insult to injury, when first turned on, it is not bright at all. On a warm night it takes a couple of minutes to reach it's full potential. On a cold night it takes 5 minutes or so and never does reach the same brightness as on a warm night. Tried a second bulb and the results were the same. Wonder how much energy is involved getting them up to speed ? So if we need instant light, we are out of luck.  Guess we could stock up on incandesents. But that would be cause for the government to create a new department. They could burn fuel riding around at night looking for yards that were properly illuminated and make arrest.  Kip
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Replying to: steve_ (Jan 02, 2009 9:12 am) The Center for Union Facts is a secretive front group for individuals and industries opposed to union activities. It is part of lobbyist Rick Berman's family of front groups including the Employment Policies Institute. The domain name www.unionfacts.com was registered to Berman & Co. in May 2005. In May 2006 the Center for Union Facts, launched its first TV ad campaign. The 30-second spot, running on Fox News and local markets, has "actors posing as workers" saying "sarcastically what they 'love' about unions," like paying dues, union leaders' "fat-cat lifestyles," and discrimination against minorities. The ad campaign cost $3 million, which was raised "from companies, foundations and individuals that Mr. Berman won't identify." http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Center_for_Union_Facts
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Source: Seacoast Online (New Hampshire), August 17, 2008 From a Center for Union Facts adThe Center for Union Facts, one of lobbyist Rick Berman's front groups, is railing against the Employee Free Choice Act, legislation that would "allow employees at a work place to unionize as soon as a majority signs cards expressing support to join a union." Labor rights advocates say the bill is needed, because of employer intimidation and union-busting tactics. Berman's Center, as the "Employee Freedom Action Committee," says the bill would allow "union bosses" to "stand over workers' shoulders and use coercion." It's launched a $30 million campaign, including radio, television, print and online ads and "a substantial grassroots organizing effort." The "Coalition for a Democratic Workplace," which is comprised of "virtually hundreds of businesses, chambers of commerce and trade associations," is also spending millions to defeat the bill. Both groups are targeting Senators "in what they see as key states," including Maine and New Hampshire. The bill has passed the House and is before the Senate. "The folks behind the ad campaign fear that if Sen. Barack Obama, an Employee Free Choice Act sponsor, is elected president and power shifts to the Democrats in the Senate, the bill will become law." http://www.prwatch.org/node/7681 foot notes Berman has lobbied on behalf of pesticide, alcohol and tobacco companies, and against the Americans with Disabilities Act, checkpoints to catch drunk drivers, minimum wage increases, and card-check. A 2006 USA Today article reported that his lobbying firm brings in $10 million per year for his work on ultra-conservative, anti-union clients. Berman has even waged a campaign against Mothers Against Drunk Driving. |
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