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Re: Hmmmm....! [gagrice] by dallasdude1
Jan 02, 2009 (8:48 am)
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Replying to: gagrice (Jan 02, 2009 7:58 am)

Carter also imposed price controls and wage controls.
 
In response to the spiraling inflation of the early 1970s, Richard Nixon became the first president to use price and wage controls during peacetime. The strategy did help to stabilize the economy but proved to be only a temporary fix. Unfortunately, Nixon's attempt to subdue inflation and reduce unemployment resulted in limited goods for consumers and increased business bankruptcies, while doing little to curb joblessness. By the time Nixon resigned in 1974, inflation had reached double digits and the American economy was mired in a deep recession. When inflation reached eighteen percent in 1980, Americans clamored for mandatory price and wage controls. President Jimmy Carter steadfastly refused, stating that peacetime controls during the 1970s had proven a dismal failure.
 
http://www.answers.com/topic/price-and-wage-controls
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UAW please by steve_ HOST
Jan 02, 2009 (8:52 am)
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The political season ended last November and we're still in the honeymoon period. Let's quit rehashing the 60's, 70's.... Y'all are making me feel my age.
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Re: Hmmmm....! [gagrice] by dallasdude1
Jan 02, 2009 (8:55 am)
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Replying to: gagrice (Jan 02, 2009 7:58 am)

I can tell you the rich got a lot richer during the Carter Presidency. T-Bills were paying 17% interest. That means someone invested in government bills they could make a lot more money than they could building cars.
 
You fail to see that inflation is factored into that interest rate and that the purchasing power of that money decreases during inflationary periods. So if I buy a home for $100,000 and sell it for $200,000 in time. Then go to replace it and its selling for $200,000, I have gained nothing.
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Re: UAW please [steve_] by dallasdude1
Jan 02, 2009 (9:00 am)
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Replying to: steve_ (Jan 02, 2009 8:52 am)

Ooooooooooh K, back to the UAW. The folks who brought you weekends. Steve, my friend, can you hook us up with a summer trip to Black Lake?
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Re: UAW please [dallasdude1] by steve_ HOST
Jan 02, 2009 (9:12 am)
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Replying to: dallasdude1 (Jan 02, 2009 9:00 am)

For one of those "educational" trips that sound more like indoctrination?
 
Meanwhile, the union needs to figure out their tax bill on the golf course.
 
Is the UAW’s Black Lake in the red? (laborpains.org)
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Re: UAW please [steve_] by gagrice
Jan 02, 2009 (1:01 pm)
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Replying to: steve_ (Jan 02, 2009 9:12 am)

Sounds like the UAW is trying to cheat on their property taxes also. Just what I would need as a retired UAW member. A luxury resort and golf course that I could not afford to use, stealing from my pension fund, so the fat cat UAW leadership would have a place to hang out and play golf. I wonder how deep in debt they would go before anyone found out if honest news sources did not investigate that kind of chicanery.
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Re: UAW please [gagrice] by bumpy
Jan 02, 2009 (3:02 pm)
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Replying to: gagrice (Jan 02, 2009 1:01 pm)

Maybe the retirees need to form a union to protect their interests against the UAW?
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Re: UAW please [gagrice] by 62vetteefp
Jan 02, 2009 (6:25 pm)
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Replying to: gagrice (Jan 02, 2009 1:01 pm)

A luxury resort and golf course that I could not afford to use, stealing from my pension fund,
 
How can the UAW steal from their pension fund? GM holds and pays the UAW pensions.
 
Looks to me like the township the course is in says it is worth more than what the UAW says its worth. And when it was taken to court the UAW value was taken.
 
Today it is probably worth half what it was in '07 anyway.
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Re: UAW please [62vetteefp] by gagrice
Jan 02, 2009 (6:43 pm)
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Replying to: 62vetteefp (Jan 02, 2009 6:25 pm)

I would imagine the UAW has a pension fund for the fat cat Union leadership. Not all contracts will be funded by the corporation. The Teamsters usually have the pension fund. They collect for each hour worked and dump it into the trust fund. Since 1990 they have been much closer watched. Remember when the Unions were accused of lending money to the mob from the pension funds. Las Vegas was started with Union pension money. I was surprised to hear that GM and Ford held the pension money. Isn't that how the steel industry employees got screwed? Who can you trust these days?
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Re: UAW please [62vetteefp] by gagrice
Jan 02, 2009 (7:32 pm)
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Replying to: 62vetteefp (Jan 02, 2009 6:25 pm)

Looks to me like the township the course is in says it is worth more than what the UAW says its worth.
 
When the UAW claims it as an asset in the Pension trust it has one value (Very High). When they get their tax bill they beat the value down to nothing for the township's tax base. The assessor is probably afraid to say much as they will send the guys with baseball bats around to see him. So how does this UAW resort for the fat cat leaders and UAW cronies benefit Michigan? The UAW members being sheep think the leaders have their best interest in mind. Very foolish thinking.

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