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Replying to: steve_ (Dec 31, 2008 7:35 am) I would be curious if the UAW pays full wages to the members when they are on strike. Or do they even pay as much as Unemployment. I really doubt they would give a fraction of their wages. They don't want to jeopardize the UAW brass having their own golf course. |
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Replying to: gagrice (Dec 31, 2008 12:34 pm) The strikes that have cost General Motors Corp. more than $1.2 billion so far have left the United Auto Workers union largely unscathed. At a cost of $12 million or less, the UAW has shut down virtually all the automaker's North American assembly plants and nearly emptied its dealers' showrooms around the country. Negotiators could have a settlement this week, limiting the impact of the month-old walkout by 9,200 workers at two Flint GM plants and the ensuing layoffs of 119,000 nonstriking U.S. auto workers. And in the meantime, the union's record-size war chest remains intact. ... (this release was after 1 month of strike) So how were the domestics supposed to change the work rules and pay of the UAW? $12 million UAW payout vs. $1.2 billion GM loss. So if the UAW had $1.2 billion then they could have lasted until GM lost $120 billion. (please check my math!) This strike lasted less than 2 months. It could have gone on many more months and the UAW fund would still have money left. And this was only a local Flint strike!!!!
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Replying to: gagrice (Dec 31, 2008 12:34 pm) The UAW currently represents 73,000 GM workers at 82 U.S. facilities nationwide, including assembly and parts plants and warehouses. If workers go on strike, they will be paid $200 a week plus medical benefits from the UAW's strike fund. The union had more than $800 million in that fund as of last November, according to the UAW's Web site. |
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Replying to: dallasdude1 (Dec 31, 2008 9:11 am) Let me get this straight. The UAW forces GM into giving a dollar to NASCAR for every hour of OT paid? And that is designed to make the members happy? Kind of goes in the face of the UAW members filing for bankruptcy when they lose OT they are used to. I think it is designed for one purpose only. To force the automakers into hiring more employees.
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Replying to: gagrice (Dec 31, 2008 1:16 pm) No, they agreed to it, I believe that all of the Big Three agreed to it. Its a moot point which of the Big Three went along. No one twisted their arm and or held a gun to their head. I'm certain that they got something in return for it, as thats how negotiations go. Besides its good PR and both parties left the table with something they felt better off with. It is designed to hire more people so that people can be home with their families. Doing the quality family time thing. Then maybe, the $100,000 (base pay plus overtime pay) of sticker shock, you have, about the typical UAW rank and file would therefore be a non issue. Ain't family values great? If you feel that you can do better in negotiations and or that GM is a sucker. They have dealerships all over. Go on, take advantage of them. While your there pick me up a CTS for $10,000.
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Replying to: 62vetteefp (Dec 31, 2008 12:55 pm) Thats just not true. Both sides lose in the strike situation. Did workers not have economic losses? $200 needs to be deducted from the weekly earnings to determine the economic lost to the UAW rank and file. The rank and file are the UAW. Typically the locals rank and file vote to strike and or vote to ratify a contract and or reject a contract, thus sending both parties back to the table, in which case they might be working without a contract, then typically the old contract is in effect. |
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Replying to: gagrice (Dec 31, 2008 12:34 pm) Any, I repeat, any UAW member can use the Black Lake Michigan golf course. If time permits, regular folks, even you can use it too. Its a public golf course. Do you want me to get you a tee time? http://www.blacklakegolf.com/more-about-the-course-7/
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Replying to: dallasdude1 (Dec 31, 2008 1:36 pm) There is no doubt in my mind that I could negotiate better from either side of the table. Then I would not have pushed GM or the other automakers into the mess they are in now. That was just plain stupidity on the part of Wagoner. The board was asleep and let him sell the company down the river. If he had any brains he would have locked out the UAW in 1998 and they would be history. Move the plants to states or countries with people willing to work and not whine every time they have to lift a finger. Why would I even consider doing anything like that now? I am sitting here looking out at my flower garden. There is a species of Wren I am trying to ID. He is eating earwigs and other bugs. I have the satisfaction of knowing that the contracts I was part of negotiating did not run our company into bankruptcy. The same cannot be said of Gettlefinger and his horde of thugs. |
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Replying to: dallasdude1 (Dec 31, 2008 1:52 pm) Anyone that can afford $85 for 18 holes is making too much money. Those are close to Hawaii rates. $60 for a retiree, oh they must have some kind of gold plated retirement. UAW members need to come back to reality, if they can afford that sport. I thought my brother was crazy paying $45 to play that silly game.
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Replying to: gagrice (Dec 31, 2008 1:58 pm)
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