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Replying to: steve_ (Dec 31, 2008 7:35 am) Buckley said in 2005 that the magazine had lost about $25 million over 50 years. NASCAR its publicity, more or less like these large corporations naming stadiums/arenas. Besides, the one dollar per overtime worked is a good thing. It discourages the automakers from robbing the workforce of the "Family Time" a part of "Family Values". both of whom make six-figure salaries thats vague, is it $100,000 or $999,999.99
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Replying to: dallasdude1 (Dec 31, 2008 7:01 am) No, it's not. There's no such thing as a fair bailout, no matter who benefits from it. (I know that I won't get an argument from you on this.) It's too bad that our political leadership isn't smart enough & brave enough to tell us that bailouts won't fix what's wrong with us - that we'll be far better off down the road if we endure a couple of painful years now. I think that this happens to be what most Americans believe, but our politicos don't have the guts to come out & say this. They'd rather use our money - what's left of it - to create a fleeting illusion of well-being. |
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Replying to: dallasdude1 (Dec 30, 2008 7:50 pm) That does not require a degree in economics to figure out. Look who is running the banking committee in Congress. Barney Frank and his boyfriend that was in Fannie Mae along with Chris Dodd and Obama that were close to Frank Raines that bilked FM & FM out of a $100 million while lying about the profit that was NOT there. Bush and McCain were shot down by Congress when they tried regulating Fannie Mae. Not that it is really related to an Auto industry that has been mismanaged for decades. The Credit Crunch should have come about 30 years ago. Giving credit to anyone that looked like they were breathing IS the problem. The auto industry sold too many vehicles to people that had no business buying them. Now the market needs to correct itself. If the UAW goes away they have NO ONE to blame but their own greed. |
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Replying to: dallasdude1 (Dec 31, 2008 8:12 am) |
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As with any large organization, your never going to get agreement as to whats a worthy cause. The NASCAR money is not dues collected, but rather a side agreement. The automaker is obligated to pay $1 for each employee that works overtime. Hence, they discourage overtime and or hiring the additional employee. Both the automaker and UAW get a little publicity too. The rank and file may want the overtime is more than likely the argument. Here you get into the cost of hiring the additional marginal employee as oppose to working the current employee overtime. It might even be a wash as a tired and or spent employee may if fact be less productive. Then again, the media, didn't provide the details as I have here in this very forum. Now and prior, I have addressed this very issue. They, the media, if anything are late. I went out of my way to express this very issue with the UAW years ago and they were above board and explained it in detail. This same media has painted a very ugly picture of the UAW and is bias to say the least. I am being kind in stating that. Fact is its pathetic that they don't expose their real loyalties and who owns them. The FOX NEWS bovine case speaks for itself and is an indictment on the media bias. http://www.cnsnews.com/public/content/article.aspx?RsrcID=41355
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Replying to: steve_ (Dec 31, 2008 7:35 am) I would be curious if the UAW pays full wages to the members when they are on strike. Or do they even pay as much as Unemployment. I really doubt they would give a fraction of their wages. They don't want to jeopardize the UAW brass having their own golf course. |
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Replying to: gagrice (Dec 31, 2008 12:34 pm) The strikes that have cost General Motors Corp. more than $1.2 billion so far have left the United Auto Workers union largely unscathed. At a cost of $12 million or less, the UAW has shut down virtually all the automaker's North American assembly plants and nearly emptied its dealers' showrooms around the country. Negotiators could have a settlement this week, limiting the impact of the month-old walkout by 9,200 workers at two Flint GM plants and the ensuing layoffs of 119,000 nonstriking U.S. auto workers. And in the meantime, the union's record-size war chest remains intact. ... (this release was after 1 month of strike) So how were the domestics supposed to change the work rules and pay of the UAW? $12 million UAW payout vs. $1.2 billion GM loss. So if the UAW had $1.2 billion then they could have lasted until GM lost $120 billion. (please check my math!) This strike lasted less than 2 months. It could have gone on many more months and the UAW fund would still have money left. And this was only a local Flint strike!!!!
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Replying to: gagrice (Dec 31, 2008 12:34 pm) The UAW currently represents 73,000 GM workers at 82 U.S. facilities nationwide, including assembly and parts plants and warehouses. If workers go on strike, they will be paid $200 a week plus medical benefits from the UAW's strike fund. The union had more than $800 million in that fund as of last November, according to the UAW's Web site. |
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Replying to: dallasdude1 (Dec 31, 2008 9:11 am) Let me get this straight. The UAW forces GM into giving a dollar to NASCAR for every hour of OT paid? And that is designed to make the members happy? Kind of goes in the face of the UAW members filing for bankruptcy when they lose OT they are used to. I think it is designed for one purpose only. To force the automakers into hiring more employees.
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