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Replying to: 62vetteefp (Dec 26, 2008 7:26 pm) You are correct and there are probably lots of commodity parts that are the same in a Toyota as a GM. But there are also many specially made parts for certain vehicles, and the car company defines the design and specification. So we can't assume that quality will always be the same, even from the same suppliers. I read a post on Edmund's recently where a supplier had been complaining about how picky the J3 are with their parts. |
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Any part may look exactly the same, but have different life expectancy depending on tolerances, materials and/or QC. They will of course have different cost as well. It's not hard to set up. In fact, we can see same thing as consumers in certain home appliances (lawn mowers, floor cleaners, pressure washers, etc.) when commercial grade equipment is set to last 10 times longer than consumer grade with cost approximately tripple cost. I don't actually know it it is happening, but it would not surprise me if it did. |
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Replying to: 62vetteefp (Dec 23, 2008 10:36 am) -Rocky |
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Replying to: lemko (Dec 23, 2008 1:01 pm) I as I've told you many of times thank-you for "getting it" lemko!!!  -Rocky |
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Replying to: lemko (Dec 23, 2008 1:18 pm)  My ultimate car is a 05' or 06' STS AWD but we will see. My boss likes me a lot thus he probably will be a little flexible with me and because I prefer to drive pre-owned vs. new I might get what I want. I have a married couple over night in a Aura XR-4 and it looks good. I've lost a few saturn deals but did keep em' in the suburban collection family and most of those are pending. Well I better hit the rack!!! I would read more but it's time to hit the hay!!! Hope all of you had a good Christmas!!! "The Rock" |
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Replying to: rockylee (Dec 26, 2008 9:18 pm) |
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Replying to: lemko (Dec 26, 2008 8:58 pm) Perhaps the UAW is also responsible for the sub prime and the Edsel too? It amazes me that when economic times get bad, we seek a scapegoat. The facts are there. They (engineering/management) opted to build an aluminum unsleeved motor. Them compounded the error by trying to inject silicone carbide into the motor. Bet that did wonders for the rings, mains, bearings, and other moving parts within the engine. Aluminum oxide and silicone carbide are abrasives commonly used to make grinding wheels to sharpen/hone metal tools. When exactly does someone take personal responsibility? http://www.failuremag.com/arch_history_edsel.html
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Replying to: dallasdude1 (Dec 27, 2008 5:49 am) That would be Dodd, Frank & Jimmy Carter. Not really sure about the Edsel. Who really cares? Ford survived that joke. GM has had plenty including the Aztek most recently. I don't think anyone is blaming the UAW for poor designs or even cheap content. Those are management decisions. It would even be fair to blame the UAW contracts on Management. Which I do. However the UAW should accept the fact that when they go on strike they are sticking a knife into the goose laying the golden egg. GM in particular has proven they do not have bright CEOs. The UAW has all but killed Union auto workers in this country.
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