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Replying to: gagrice (Dec 17, 2008 7:56 am) -Rocky
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Replying to: imidazol97 (Dec 17, 2008 7:29 am) So what? It would not have hurt the views of most Americans. With the $72 billion that GM has pissed away over the last 4 years they could have built all new factories in states that were not so repressive as Michigan. They could have had the latest and greatest with NO worries about the UAW striking. Not all states in this country are as anti profit as the Midwestern states. Why does Indiana & Kentucky seem to attract both Union and Non Union auto makers while Michigan and Ohio do not? think Time Magazine's Man of the Year will do that with part of the $600 million campaign funds having come from labor? It depends just how much of a pragmatist he turns out to be. I think he is leaning toward spending billions on putting people that are currently out of work and hurting into meaningful jobs. It is hard to look at the over paid UAW workers sitting eating jelly donuts and reading the newspaper as hurting. That is a perception based on reality. Just a small part of the 2000+ pages of UAW contracts that need to be tossed in the fire. The biggest obstacle at the Big 3 for this new President will be their lack of cars that meet the new CAFE standards coming up. Do any domestics have a car for next year that meets the 35 MPG combined mandate? Why should he bail out companies that do not build what the government mandates? You are right it will be interesting. |
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Replying to: rockylee (Dec 17, 2008 8:06 am) That is just not true. We have more tariffs on Imported vehicles than Japan. You are in denial on the global economy. I can tell you the new Congress and President are not in any way going to do anything to slow the World economy. NAFTA was signed by Bill Clinton and you can see this new administration is filled with Clinton people. The only reason the Big 3 and the UAW did well in the 1990s was the Dot.com bubble and the massive market for SUVs and PU trucks. This new President has denounced that kind of vehicle. He is pushing for smaller fuel efficient cars. The only really small car that GM has is the Aveo coming from Korea. How does that help the UAW cause?
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Replying to: 62vetteefp (Dec 17, 2008 4:20 am) Good question. What about the family living in the woods? One of those tribal families? |
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Replying to: rockylee (Dec 17, 2008 7:00 am) Reality: GM knows darn well how to make small cars. It's been doing so for decades in Europe, South America and Asia. The problem is, absent high fuel prices, GM has no earthly idea how to get Americans to buy small cars -- at a profit to GM. What is this supposed to mean? If they know how to sell small cars at a profit in other parts of the world, how come it cannot do so in their own backyard? |
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Replying to: lemko (Dec 17, 2008 7:55 am)
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Replying to: rockylee (Dec 17, 2008 8:06 am) Everybody is blaming the GM management and UAW for the mess. At least the GM management is owning up to it and willing to work for peanuts as repentance. What does UAW do? It had only 3 words......"Go !  #% Off" ?
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Replying to: imidazol97 (Dec 17, 2008 7:29 am) I don't understand this at all. What "problems" have the transplants caused? They've built factories here in the U.S. & hired American workers. Would you prefer that foreign manufacturers build all of the cars that they sell here in Germany & Japan?
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Replying to: gagrice (Dec 17, 2008 8:40 am) |
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Replying to: lemko (Dec 17, 2008 7:55 am) Agreed. That was a real engineering feat. So why couldn't GM reprise that 25 years later? That tells me that GM is not nearly as well run today as it was back in the 70s. You've given me one more reason (as if I needed it) to believe that only Chapter 11 reorganization will save GM & restore it to its former vibrancy. |
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