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2008 Navigator by nav2009
Dec 11, 2008 (6:52 pm)
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Is it a good time to finance a Navigator given all the incentives available right now or is the car industry still volitle?
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Re: tlong [tlong] by dallasdude1
Dec 11, 2008 (6:53 pm)
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Replying to: tlong (Dec 10, 2008 8:19 pm)

Back to the UAW - are the UAW contracts keeping the D3 from being more flexible and competitive in production, in innovation of the inventory/selling experiences? Why don't we have integrated/automated UAW plants in the US like the highly automated Ford plant in Brazil?
 
I have toured plants and most of the easy work has been outsourced. Much like Delphi, Mackie, and others. But outsourced to plants in this country. Then GM has allowed the UAW to organize these plants. The lesser of two evils or better than going overseas?
 
The honey comb consept plant here in Arlington Texas is the latest in cell technology. Unfortunately it was geared to build SUV's. As far as engineering America has no rival. All of the plants I've been to have state of the art equiptment.
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Re: UAW cost [tlong] by dallasdude1
Dec 11, 2008 (6:56 pm)
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Replying to: tlong (Dec 10, 2008 8:23 pm)

So what?
 
http://www.nolo.com/article.cfm/ObjectID/AAD74992-4C86-44DA-8102A340BCEC520A/cat- ID/D348BE73-C552-4D58-B00586C0C0909EFA/104/150/269/ART/
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Re: [foresterxt] by dallasdude1
Dec 11, 2008 (7:09 pm)
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Replying to: foresterxt (Dec 10, 2008 8:55 pm)

So what a male boss makes sexual advances to your wife? Quid Pro Quo situation that requires sexual favors for promotion? I can name many other instances which a employee can call out their union for protection. Your particular experiences are just that. You are a sum total of all of your life experiences. Hence, you can't make generalizations from your unique experiences and ignore each and every possibility out there. Seek some statistical evidence and or something to support your views other than heresay from your spouse. It should be noted that this only one issue of many.
 
At least 40 percent of all women report being sexually harassed at some point in their career, and men currently account for 11.6 percent of all sexual harassment cases. So, the chances of your company needing to respond to a sexual harassment concern are great. Be prepared, and you will likely deal with it successfully for all parties involved.
 
http://www.nfib.com/object/IO_25824.html
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Re: [spirit6100] by dallasdude1
Dec 11, 2008 (7:22 pm)
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Replying to: spirit6100 (Dec 11, 2008 4:35 am)

Where was congress when this happened? Adding billions to the 700 billion. Now they are bellyaching about the Big Three only because of their UAW connections.
 
But corporate tax lawyers quickly realized the enormous implications of the document: Administration officials had just given American banks a windfall of as much as $140 billion.
 
The sweeping change to two decades of tax policy escaped the notice of lawmakers for several days, as they remained consumed with the controversial bailout bill. When they found out, some legislators were furious. Some congressional staff members have privately concluded that the notice was illegal. But they have worried that saying so publicly could unravel several recent bank mergers made possible by the change and send the economy into an even deeper tailspin.
 
"Did the Treasury Department have the authority to do this? I think almost every tax expert would agree that the answer is no," said George K. Yin, the former chief of staff of the Joint Committee on Taxation, the nonpartisan congressional authority on taxes. "They basically repealed a 22-year-old law that Congress passed as a backdoor way of providing aid to banks."

 
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/11/09/AR2008110902155_- pf.html
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Re: It is my belief [dieselone] by dallasdude1
Dec 11, 2008 (7:39 pm)
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Replying to: dieselone (Dec 11, 2008 6:34 pm)

Yeah after divesting the other businesses. Note the date.
 
In the pension agency's view, to permit a company to adopt this type of ''follow-on'' pension plan after terminating its original plan is to invite abuse of the pension insurance system. As the agency explained its view to the Court, workers will have every incentive to collude with their employers in the abandonment of troubled pension plans, knowing that the Federal program will cover most of the benefits and a relatively inexpensive new plan will pick up the rest. The result, the agency said, will be an accelerating drain on its resources.
 
But the appeals court ruled that under the Federal retirement law, the existence of a new pension plan of this type was not a basis for the pension agency to order restoration of the old plans. In its appeal, P.B.G.C. v. LTV Corp., No. 89-390, the agency is arguing that the appeals court should have deferred to the agency's professional judgment that misuse of the insurance fund should not be tolerated.

 
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=950DE6D6123EF932A05753C1A96F94826- 0&sec=&spon=&pagewanted=1
 
Also your right about everything being done on the IPhone. I stand corrected.
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Re: Loan to the "Big Three" [62vetteefp] by tlong
Dec 11, 2008 (7:47 pm)
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Replying to: 62vetteefp (Dec 11, 2008 6:10 pm)

I wonder, if we let them go bankrupt, is it just the tip of an even BIGGER iceberg than what we are talking about???
  
Depends who you think is more correct. 3 think tank type groups or the Republicans down south with the competitors plants.

 
Just for balance, there's also Milton Friedman, Harvard economist, and a lot of other economists who side with your "Republicans down south with competitors plants".
 
Unfortunately we may find out. Headlines as of this moment are saying the talks have broken down because UAW won't agree to wage cuts. Looks like not much has changed with them.
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"I dread looking at Wall Street tomorrow" by steve_ HOST
Dec 11, 2008 (8:03 pm)
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"Several Republican senators seen leaving a meeting on a proposed settlement said the deal was off following hours of negotiations. The problem, they said, returned to the contentious issue of forcing the UAW to accept wages and benefits equal to those paid by foreign automakers in the United States."
 
lTalks break off after GOP senators, UAW can't agree on pay (Detroit Free Press)
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Re: UAW cost [dallasdude1] by tlong
Dec 11, 2008 (9:47 pm)
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Replying to: dallasdude1 (Dec 11, 2008 6:56 pm)

I know what "at will" means, I've been an "at will" employee for over 20 years.
 
Your original post implied that because the UAW were collective bargaining employees they shouldn't have to tighten their belts (make concessions). Nothing to do with whether your employer can fire you. Are you suggesting that just because workers pay union dues they should be exempt from sacrifice to save a company? Everybody else sacrifice but not them?
 
That appears to be the mentality as the bailout bill failed tonight because the UAW didn't want to budge until after their precious contract runs out in 2011.
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Re: UAW cost [tlong] by meglassakt
Dec 12, 2008 (1:18 am)
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Replying to: tlong (Dec 11, 2008 9:47 pm)

u try to lie and steal, might as well call it trying to cheat ..,
keep the teacher's in the classroom where they belong and they should not be allowed to corrupt the rest with their ideas. Socrates was put to death for corupting the youth you know...., It is somebody(ies) theory being passed around to depend on the bankruptcy, but it does not have to be that way at all. There have been trillions of dollars here at play.., if all of those are so smart then something should have been done to save the economy more than where it's at now.
1)the UAW have made concessions.
2)A contract is a contract....., You could find a pie of your own and leave everbody elses' pie alone........, it's unlawful to break a contract....., The workers are tired enough already to deal with people trying to eat at them. pick pick pick
 the banks that were bailed out could allow the general public to open they're Home Loan Contracts for a better interest rate instead of foreclosures or the way you are talking, lower the amount of the loan to the lowered value of the home if that be the case.
ceos have been fired in the past, but i don't see a good economy still. for $1 a year, one might be given the opportunity to resolve this.
 
~cheers

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