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Replying to: grbeck (Apr 27, 2007 6:30 am) It is all over California. There are many cities now that have to subsidize teachers and police housing so they can afford to live where they work. Silicon Valley being the prime example.
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Replying to: gagrice (Apr 27, 2007 6:47 am) Man $11 an hour in 1970, would make you a very well off finacially. Holy Smokes, those wages were almost un heard of back then weren't they ? It's been nice and educational listening to you old timers on past prices as my family has really never put it into perspective like you guys have taught me. If I could of go back into the past and gobbled up real estate for my family back in the 1960's I'd be rich today.  How much did a Cadillac cost in the early 70's ? I know UAW workers made good but they weren't leading the pack in wages as so many other company's made more than them. However they weren't poor either. I can only put it in perspective of my childhood as our new home in 1986' in Wayland, Mi. I thing dad paid $62,000. That same home is probably worth now $120K+. My mom in step-dad in 92 or 93 baught their home for $77K in Wyoming, Mi. Now that same home is worth between $160-$170K.  I know UAW wages or wages in general have not even came close to keep up with the cost of living. It's crazy. My father's property he baught from my grandparents on the lake in the late 90's has more than doubled. It's like worth 2 1/2 times what he paid for it. However my dad and step-dad almost have it paid for from what I understand. Rocky
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Replying to: rockylee (Apr 27, 2007 2:40 pm) An interesting turn of events was the Company that hired me and brought me to Alaska, RCA Global Communications wanted us to go Teamsters, which we did. They found it easier to deal with one wage scale in each classification.
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Replying to: gagrice (Apr 27, 2007 11:07 pm)  Rocky
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http://www.detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070427/AUTO01/704270363/1148- /AUTO01 Rocky |
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Replying to: rockylee (Apr 28, 2007 1:05 am)
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Replying to: gagrice (Apr 28, 2007 4:20 pm) Rocky |
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Well I'm taking 62's gentlemens bet he made with you as faith that I will not see Chinese, made GM cars on my soil. The AVEO, can blow up for all I care. That goes for all the other cracker box, sardine cans, from South Korea. The Hyundai/Kia workers are unionized but the country has a poor human rights record. The average guy/gal works more hours and longer weeks than any other country in the world. I believe the average person works 60 something hours a week and 72 hour work weeks aren't on common. It's basically work that long or be fired. Well enough about South Korea, before I get side tracked. Where is your evidence that Chrysler, is going to import Chinese, automobiles ???? The last I new Kerkorkian and the UAW were going to team up and buy Chrysler from Diamler Benz. Do you really think the UAW, is going to allow a company they partially own to sell non-union Chinese, made automobiles. I think not !!! Rocky
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Replying to: rockylee (Apr 30, 2007 8:52 pm) First of all, the UAW doesn't own any part of anything at Chrysler yet, there is speculation and that's all. And Kerkorian won't be any more successful at buying Chrysler than he was at taking over GM last year. Secondly, Chrysler has already released news to the press that it intends to join into a deal with SAIC in China to produce "a small car for U.S. sale". Everyone figures it has to be the new Hornet that made such a splash as a concept, but that is not set in stone. I just used the name as shorthand. It could be something else, but Chrysler has said it will be a small car, for U.S. sale. Now, if some capital group like Magna or Cerberus buys Chrysler, everything in the works could be put on hold, of course. I will add that having read through the posts here, I am convinced that the UAW will not successfully unionize the Kentucky plant or any of Toyota's other plants either. But this is a personal conviction which I will not attempt to support by jumping into the heavy politics being discussed in this thread. I shy away from heavily political discussions. I do think the future for unions in the U.S. is tenuous as the labor market is flooded with folks who can be quickly trained to replace union workers in many functions and fields. The flight attendants and pilots have folded to corporate demands or lost their jobs, the teachers in some cases have experienced the same. Plus, speaking of the UAW specifically, it would seem the worker and by extension the union has less leverage when a strike would accomplish something good for the corporation, which is already at overcapacity and just ACHING to shut down plants without having to pay the workers.
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Replying to: nippononly (Apr 30, 2007 9:26 pm) Rocky P.S. I respect your $0.02 and I'm sorry if I came across emotional but really I am a pretty laid back guy. Well not all the time but.....
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