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Replying to: dallasdude1 (Dec 07, 2008 7:52 am) I disagree and would like to see how you come up with that number. The rest of the post - unions were very valuable 100 or 75 years ago. Today workers have huge safety nets and rules provided by the federal government. Unions are hurting our competitiveness rather than helping it. |
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Replying to: iluvmysephia1 (Dec 07, 2008 8:16 am) Why don't you just ship the entire manufacturing base to China and get it over with? Unfortunately we can't ship out those Wally World jobs. Yeah, we require that the illegals they hire to clean out the stores not be locked inside, people be allowed to take breaks, women be given equal opportunity, and did I forget something? The geature of hiring a greeter, old or handicap isn't really necessary to keep up PR/good corporate image. http://walmartwatch.com/
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Replying to: tlong (Dec 07, 2008 9:15 am) First, remember we still have loop holes for both people and corporations. Then too we are double taxed, somewhat in that both shareholder and corporation pay taxes. They are straight forward and thats cheap compared to Europe. Germany being the most socialist country. So, unlike Americans they aren't as wasteful. Thats a very conservative number. Nissan quoted 34%. Japanese Corporate tax A corporation in Japan is required to file returns, pay tax and supply details of the computation of taxable income to the Japanese tax office. The place of tax payment of a domestic corporation is the place where its head or main office is located. In case of a foreign corporation, the place of the payment is where the corporation's main permanent establishment or estate in Japan is located. For a corporation whose capital exceeds JPY 100million, a tax rate of 30% is applicable to all of the ordinary income. For a corporation whose capital amounts to JPY 100million or less, a tax rate of 22% is applicable up to JPY 8million and a tax rate of 30% to the remainder of the ordinary income. A corporation is required to file a final tax return within 2 months after the end of its business year. A final tax return must be accompanied by the balance sheet, profit and loss statement and other documents describing items necessary for calculating its ordinary income, undistributed income and the corporation tax due. If the ordinary income shows a net loss, the net loss can be carried forward to the five succeeding years, which is deductible from the income of each business year. Foreign corporations, which do not have their head office in Japan are classified for tax purposes as follows: Foreign corporations carrying on business through a branch office are subject to corporation tax on their entire income sources in Japan. Foreign corporations carrying on business not through permanent establishments but through an agent in Japan who has the authority to conclude contracts or important activities are subject to corporation tax on the income derived from a business in Japan. http://www.acojapan.com/japanesetax.htm http://www.mof.go.jp/english/zei/report2/zc001d02.htm
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Replying to: gagrice (Dec 06, 2008 8:07 pm) http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2008/09/21/paulson-urges-quick-action-billion-ba- ilout-plan/ Replying to: Most of the country sees overpaid....... Yes, Dealer Auto mechanics do make a good salary. They get a work order for a certain repair. That repair by the hour book says this job pays say, three hrs. If the mechanic finishes the job in one hour, he gets paid for three hours, as does the Dealer. Yes warranty work is paid less. But is usually shared among the workers. unless they are able to give it to the mechanic who actually did the work. But Auto Assemblers have it much easier. THEY ARE THE OVERPAID, OVER BENEFITED WHINERS.
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if Wal*Mart is so evil, why doesn't Congress patrol and outlaw Wal*Mart? Isn't directing hatred towards Wal*Mart kind of one-sided? It's not just Wal*Mart. How much of bankrupt Linens-N-Things goods were made in China? Is it wrong for me to buy a car made by Mitsubishi Motors of Japan? Why is it wrong? What is wrong with making choices that are beneficial to me? Not only that, but choices that are beneficial to me for a long time. There's more going on here. Who thinks ghastly prices are gonna rise in the next 3 months? These decisions are made by people that have been elected by the American people(allowing the trade situation, including import vehicle tariffs that we now have). I as a consumer don't get to decide who will sell me an automobile. IIRC it was Bill Clinton that OK'd NAFTA. It goes way beyond Party lines. It is hard to beat the value of a 2008 Mitsubishi Lancer GTS. The car is made with a computerized driver's information center, TPMS, airbags in every known direction to protect the driver and passengers should a collision occur. The car is a ball to drive, it is truly well-made. Mitsubishi watches how their racing rigs do in races and incorporates changes to their production-line vehicles as they see fit...after watching how their cars perform. What went wrong? What went right? Questions like that. Guys, I respect a carmaker like that. Does GM do that? Nope, ya dope, they don't. dallasdude, BTW, do you signal your intention to change lanes while driving on the freeways and highways and various byways of Texas? Tell the truth on that to me. Or do you just lazily drift on over without signaling, like so many stupid American drivers do these days? Can I get a witness here? How many of y'all signal your intention to change lanes when driving. If you don't you are being a lazy, stupid, know-it-all driver. An American driver. Giving money to companies like GM that don't compare how their racing cars are doing and continuously look to improve their cars makes no fiscal sense to me. I like things to make fiscal sense. Money doesn't grow on trees. Apparently you are trying to jack us all up in to thinking that money does grow on trees. Also, a late-breaking thought. Listening to Wagoner at the Congressional bailout hearings from the TV in the other room made me question his game plan. Does CLUELESS come to anyone else's mind here? How did that guy get that job, anyway? GM and the UAW is doomed. 
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Replying to: snookered (Dec 07, 2008 10:09 am) Thats about the same thing Phil Gramm said about all Americans. He authored the infamous ENRON clause and snuck it in as congress was leaving in 2000. His wife was on the ENRON payroll too. What a guy. This ENRON clause is the smoking gun behind this whole sub prime economic mess. Deregulate and they will come.
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Your not going to tell me that if that employer is having economic issues, that an employee should work below the prevailing wage so as to bail out the employer? This says everything in a nutshell. We will put this on the UAW's tombstone. |
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Replying to: dallasdude1 (Dec 07, 2008 9:46 am) That is NOT the same as a 30% tax on income. If income is 6% of the total sales price, then the tax to Japan is about 2%. A big difference from 33% of the cost of the import. This is where the "all the money goes back to Japan" argument falls apart. But for the Japanese nameplates manufactured in the USA, 50%-80% goes to the USA in the form of jobs and services. Two percent in my example goes to Japan.
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Replying to: dallasdude1 (Dec 07, 2008 9:16 am) We have a few simple choices here: 1 - Do as you suggest above; 2 - Become competitive. This means welcoming efficiency and keeping costs low. The UAW wants to keep costs high but complains about jobs leaving. Which is it going to be? They ARE NOT going to have both. |
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The sooner you work on alternate skills and training, the better. Don't put all of your eggs into the UAW basket. Over one third of UAW jobs have been lost since 2000 with your friend Gettlefinger at the helm. Skills diversification is the name of the game. Be ready to move to another part of the country if necessary - jobs are around if you look. Those who prepare will do fine, and many will find life is even better post-UAW. The golden UAW goose - those days are coming to a close. GET OVER IT. Hopefully with your bigger than average incomes and benefits you have been socking some of it away for a rainy day rather than squandering it all. |
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