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Re: Congressional Democrats say let George do it [steve_] by tlong
Dec 06, 2008 (12:30 pm)
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Replying to: steve_ (Dec 06, 2008 11:18 am)

It wouldn't take too many busloads of unemployed line workers to create havoc with a bunch of suppliers and it won't take too many GM buses to block the gates to the parking lots of Mercedes and Nissan.
 
The more thuggish the UAW becomes, the less sympathy they will get from the average citizen and congress, and the more they will lose. Big 3 management may have been stupid enough to be held hostage by the UAW but the rest of the US is not.
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Re: Congressional Democrats say let George do it [tlong] by 62vetteefp
Dec 06, 2008 (12:38 pm)
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Replying to: tlong (Dec 06, 2008 12:30 pm)

IF all the unions in the country could get together and put forth a challenge to the pay and benefits that are paid to some (non Union) then I could see something happening.
 
But, it will never happen. To many people watch out only for themselves.
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Re: Congressional Democrats say let George do it [tlong] by steve_ HOST
Dec 06, 2008 (12:39 pm)
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Replying to: tlong (Dec 06, 2008 12:30 pm)

the less sympathy they will get from the average citizen
 
That could depend on how many average citizens are also out of work.
 
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Re: Unionizing the Transplants [lokki] by imidazol97
Dec 06, 2008 (1:39 pm)
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Replying to: lokki (Dec 06, 2008 12:01 pm)

Can someone speak to the retirement plans of the foreign brands compared to the retirement plans of the US manufacturers?
 
I doubt that the few from Toyota Georgetown have the retirement that UAW has garnered for their US members through the last decades.
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Re: Congressional Democrats say let George do it [steve_] by gagrice
Dec 06, 2008 (2:06 pm)
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Replying to: steve_ (Dec 06, 2008 12:39 pm)

That could depend on how many average citizens are also out of work.
 
My Ford Mechanic friend that is laid off blames the UAW for the woes in the auto industry. I don't think the 10 million workers unemployed right now will have any sympathy for the overpaid UAW members. Especially the ones that do not have to go and beat the pavement each week to get their unemployment check. At one time the UAW was a symbol for what is good with Unions. That probably ended 30 years ago.
 
No rubber room cartoons for the 1000s that have already gotten laid off at dealerships around the country. Only the elitist UAW workers get special treatment. No the average out of work person is not feeling bad for the UAW.
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Re: Congressional Democrats say let George do it [62vetteefp] by gagrice
Dec 06, 2008 (2:23 pm)
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Replying to: 62vetteefp (Dec 06, 2008 12:38 pm)

IF all the unions in the country could get together and put forth a challenge to the pay and benefits that are paid to some (non Union) then I could see something happening.
 

 
We have the AFL-CIO that does just that. However many of the majors have opted out. Two of the largest dropped out, the NEA and Teamsters. As our country goes more toward the environmental and information technology base, people do not like being associated with Union Thug mentality. I know in 1970 when we voted to go Teamster instead of IBEW I was not happy and lead several big protests to no avail. The telephone operators outnumbered the technicians 10 to 1 and they voted us all into the Teamsters. I would not speak to the IBEW President for several years as I felt he dropped the ball and fed us to the wolves. I got over it and got elected to the Teamster board of trustees. You can't beat em join em.
 
Most people I know here in CA are anti Union. Most do not have a clue how tough it will be retiring on SS without a decent pension.
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Sorry for the off topic by dhamilton
Dec 06, 2008 (2:55 pm)
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Dallasdude I went to Jr high, and high school in Stockton. I have many friends and family there. I beg them all the time to move to Dallas. No takers yet, but darn the economy is screwed out there.
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Re: Congressional Democrats say let George do it [gagrice] by imidazol97
Dec 06, 2008 (3:28 pm)
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Replying to: gagrice (Dec 06, 2008 2:06 pm)

>My Ford Mechanic friend that is laid off blames the UAW for the woes in the auto industry.
 
How does he feel about the government who let the foreign makers come into the market without tariffs? And built plants here that undercut the US brands?
 
How does he feel about the government that doesn't do anything to control the UAW's high wages and benefits?
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Angry laid-off workers occupy factory in Chicago by lemko
Dec 06, 2008 (3:59 pm)
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Workers who got three days' notice their factory was shutting its doors have occupied the building and say they won't go home without assurances they'll get severance and vacation pay they say they are owed.
 
About 200 union workers occupied the Republic Windows and Doors plant in shifts Saturday while union leaders outside criticized a Wall Street bailout they say is leaving laborers behind.
 
Leah Fried, an organizer with the United Electrical Workers, said the Chicago-based vinyl window manufacturer failed to give 60 days' notice required by law before shutting down.
 
During the peaceful takeover, workers have been shoveling snow and cleaning the building, Fried said.
 
"We're doing something we haven't since the 1930s, so we're trying to make it work," Fried said.
 
Protest organizers said the company can't pay employees because its creditor, Charlotte, N.C.-based Bank of America, won't let them. Crain's Chicago Business reported that Republic Windows' monthly sales had fallen to $2.9 million from $4 million during the past month. In a memo to the union, obtained by the business journal, Republic CEO Rich Gillman said the company had "no choice but to shut our doors."
 
Bank of America received $25 billion from the government's financial bailout package.
 
"Across cultures, religions, union and nonunion, we all say this bailout was a shame," said Richard Berg, president of Teamsters Local 743. "If this bailout should go to anything, it should go to the workers of this country."
 
Outside the plant, protesters wore stickers and carried signs that said, "You got bailed out, we got sold out."
 
Larry Spivack, regional director for American Federation of State, County and Municipal Employees, Council 31, said the peaceful action will add to Chicago's rich history in the labor movement, which includes the 1886 Haymarket affair, when Chicago laborers and anarchists gathering in a square on the city's west side drew national attention when an unidentified person threw a bomb at police.
 
"The history of workers is built on issues like this here today," Spivack said.
 
Representatives of Republic Windows did not immediately respond Saturday to calls and e-mails seeking comment.
 
Police spokeswoman Laura Kubiak said authorities were aware of the situation and officers were patrolling the area.
 
Workers were angered when company officials didn't show up for a meeting Friday that had been arranged by U.S. Rep. Luis Gutierrez, a Chicago Democrat, Fried said. Union officials said another meeting with the company is scheduled for Monday afternoon.
 
"We're going to stay here until we win justice," said Blanca Funes, 55, of Chicago, after occupying the building for several hours. Speaking in Spanish, Funes said she fears losing her home without the wages she feels she's owed. A 13-year employee of Republic, she estimated her family can make do for three months without her paycheck. Most of the factory's workers are Hispanic
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Re: Japanese Junk of the 70 [chikoo] by lemko
Dec 06, 2008 (4:10 pm)
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Replying to: chikoo (Dec 05, 2008 2:44 pm)

The Japanese had kamikaze pilots and you think that's a good thing? Hundreds of young pilots futilely sacrificed their lives! I guess those Toyota workers just toss themselves into a steel press if the tolerance on a gasoline filler door is off by a 10,000th of a millimeter. I guess you think it's a good thing to work yourself to death while forsaking your family and friends for the good of your Asian masters. I guess you also think the Emperor is God.

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