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Replying to: lemko (Dec 02, 2008 9:48 am) How and why did they seperate you? If your lady friend really wants a Camry I would try another dealership. If under different ownership I'm sure the experience would be much better. Three out of the five cars I've owned have been made by the general. All very good and reliable. Current ride 99 Buick Regal (85k miles) has been excellent... will have owned 5 years in March. |
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Replying to: jimbres (Dec 02, 2008 12:21 pm) One has excellent product. Poor Salesmanship. The Other has poor product and excellent salesmanship. Who wins?? You know that they say, a good product speaks for itself 
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Replying to: marsha7 (Dec 01, 2008 1:23 pm) The comment referred to a post in discussing the Toyota sludge problem. I was calling them out about how he could consider this issue "water under the bridge" when the problem has been only about 10 years old yet it not be "water under the bridge " to someone who may have bought a Big 3 product 30 years ago and had one bad experience. |
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Replying to: chikoo (Dec 02, 2008 1:58 pm) My wife wound up with a Lexus ES, & she's quite happy with it. But if I had to choose between a Lexus & a CTS for myself, I'd go with the Cadillac.
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Replying to: lemko (Dec 02, 2008 9:48 am) No disagreement here, there's a couple Toyota dealers I've been to that made me feel like I needed a shower when I left. But I've also bought from 2 other Toyota dealers and the experience was positive. Hondas I've bought over the years have been the same, some good, some not so good. But none of those compare to the 2 Nissan dealers I attempted to purchase. Those guys were the worst of the worst. But the domestics I bought years ago weren't necessarily a picnic either. Dealing with dealers is a necessary evil, bad experience and I walk.
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Replying to: jimbres (Dec 02, 2008 2:26 pm) Me too, I like the CTS. I was recently at Disney world and went on the GM Test Track ride--it was a hoot--and it ended up in a "showroom." My wife and I sat in a new CTS and we both liked it . . . a lot. Though to me the upper seat cushion felt a little pronounced. Still, I'll put it on my short list for my next purchase. |
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Replying to: avatexrs1 (Dec 02, 2008 7:20 am) One can only wonder why Richard Nixon aka tricky dicky resigned? For that matter why would Gerald Ford have to pardon him? |
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lemko: "The only people I know who've ever complained about their cars - whether foreign or domestic - were they people who treated them like garbage. They never serviced them, let small problems turn into big ones, changed their oil like once a decade, never washed them, and the interiors were so filthy they should've been declared biohazards"...maybe so, but the number of cars of ANY make out there after 20 years is few, so your sample still does not account for the mass exodus of the average American from the Big 3 and over to the imports...your reasoning is flawless for you, but does not work with them, and it is "them" that the Big 3 need for sales volume, 'cuz there ain't enough lemkos out there... cooter: I think I got it now..................
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Replying to: andre1969 (Dec 02, 2008 8:09 am) In 82 she switched to a Supra, and awesome car. Better than the 82 VETT. Again the battery lasted 5 years and no abnormal problems. In 92 she got the Camry from hell, both front window motors, the supposed 100,000 mile coolant ate the radiator, water pump, freeze plugs, then the motor mounts came down on the power assited rack and pinion steering, the battery lasted 2 years. The air conditioning broke 4 times, twice while out of warranty. All four brake lines popped off at the same time. This was the first year model, however, this was way too much. If you look under MSN reliability ratings 92 through 95 were dogs. That was her last Toyota. If they would have acknowledged that this last car was anything but cheap to keep and tried to attone, maybe she would feel different. I can get you the service record, and have shown it to Toyota and they have done nothing whatsoever.
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Replying to: dallasdude1 (Dec 02, 2008 6:06 pm)  law filed), power steering pump blew en route, 2 battery drain conditions, A/C compressor failed, and the air bag sensor failed. Worst experience since my Dad's 1988 FWB which was a compete disaster. This will be my last GM. Regards, OW |
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