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Re: Cooter [lemko] by andre1969
Dec 02, 2008 (1:04 pm)
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Replying to: lemko (Dec 02, 2008 1:00 pm)

Oh no, it's not one of those "real" Electras. Hell, if it had a 403, I'd try to buy it myself! This is another late 80's model, like what you have. I can't remember if it's a Park Ave or just an Electra though.
 
Also, every once in awhile, I'll see a fairly young guy driving around in mid-80's Bonneville, the Malibu-based G-body. Looks like it's still in really good shape. Kinda shocking to see, but then maybe people say the same thing about me when they see me driving around in one of my '79 NY'ers!
 
There's also an early 80's Phoenix coupe that I see from time to time at work. White, and looks like it just rolled off the showroom floor. I know THAT has to be an anomaly though!
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Re: Cooter [andre1969] by lemko
Dec 02, 2008 (1:07 pm)
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Replying to: andre1969 (Dec 02, 2008 1:04 pm)

There's some young guys around my neighborhood who have a really nice champange-colored late '80s Oldsmobile Ninety-Eight Regency. They expressed interest in buying my Park Ave. There may yet be hope for the youth of America!
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Re: Cooter [lemko] by jipster
Dec 02, 2008 (1:28 pm)
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Replying to: lemko (Dec 02, 2008 9:48 am)

They separated us were throwing all kinds of terms at my girlfriend
 
How and why did they seperate you?
 
If your lady friend really wants a Camry I would try another dealership. If under different ownership I'm sure the experience would be much better.
 
Three out of the five cars I've owned have been made by the general. All very good and reliable. Current ride 99 Buick Regal (85k miles) has been excellent... will have owned 5 years in March.
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Re: Cooter [jimbres] by chikoo
Dec 02, 2008 (1:58 pm)
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Replying to: jimbres (Dec 02, 2008 12:21 pm)

Excellent viewpoints.
 
One has excellent product. Poor Salesmanship.
 
The Other has poor product and excellent salesmanship.
 
Who wins??
 
You know that they say, a good product speaks for itself
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Re: Cooter [marsha7] by cooterbfd
Dec 02, 2008 (2:25 pm)
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Replying to: marsha7 (Dec 01, 2008 1:23 pm)

"I am not sure about your "water under the bridge" comment, but I'll give it a shot... "
 
The comment referred to a post in discussing the Toyota sludge problem. I was calling them out about how he could consider this issue "water under the bridge" when the problem has been only about 10 years old yet it not be "water under the bridge " to someone who may have bought a Big 3 product 30 years ago and had one bad experience.
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Re: Cooter [chikoo] by jimbres
Dec 02, 2008 (2:26 pm)
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Replying to: chikoo (Dec 02, 2008 1:58 pm)

In fairness to Cadillac, I must say that the car that interested me - the '05 CTS - was actually quite good. I didn't buy the car because my wife disliked the instrument panel, but both of us were impressed by how well it handled.
 
My wife wound up with a Lexus ES, & she's quite happy with it. But if I had to choose between a Lexus & a CTS for myself, I'd go with the Cadillac.
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Re: Cooter [lemko] by mikefm58
Dec 02, 2008 (5:24 pm)
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Replying to: lemko (Dec 02, 2008 9:48 am)

I can't even get past the sales experience with Toyota.
 
No disagreement here, there's a couple Toyota dealers I've been to that made me feel like I needed a shower when I left. But I've also bought from 2 other Toyota dealers and the experience was positive. Hondas I've bought over the years have been the same, some good, some not so good. But none of those compare to the 2 Nissan dealers I attempted to purchase. Those guys were the worst of the worst. But the domestics I bought years ago weren't necessarily a picnic either.
 
Dealing with dealers is a necessary evil, bad experience and I walk.
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Re: Cooter [jimbres] by iwant12
Dec 02, 2008 (5:44 pm)
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Replying to: jimbres (Dec 02, 2008 2:26 pm)

But if I had to choose between a Lexus & a CTS for myself, I'd go with the Cadillac
 
Me too, I like the CTS. I was recently at Disney world and went on the GM Test Track ride--it was a hoot--and it ended up in a "showroom." My wife and I sat in a new CTS and we both liked it . . . a lot. Though to me the upper seat cushion felt a little pronounced. Still, I'll put it on my short list for my next purchase.
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Re: DD, Out of touch on so many issues [avatexrs1] by dallasdude1
Dec 02, 2008 (5:44 pm)
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Replying to: avatexrs1 (Dec 02, 2008 7:20 am)

And by the way, federal prosecutors are in the executive branch and answerable to the Attorney General, who answers to the President. The judicial branch can't prosecute anyone for anything.
 
One can only wonder why Richard Nixon aka tricky dicky resigned? For that matter why would Gerald Ford have to pardon him?
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lemko and cooter by marsha7
Dec 02, 2008 (6:00 pm)
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lemko: "The only people I know who've ever complained about their cars - whether foreign or domestic - were they people who treated them like garbage. They never serviced them, let small problems turn into big ones, changed their oil like once a decade, never washed them, and the interiors were so filthy they should've been declared biohazards"...maybe so, but the number of cars of ANY make out there after 20 years is few, so your sample still does not account for the mass exodus of the average American from the Big 3 and over to the imports...your reasoning is flawless for you, but does not work with them, and it is "them" that the Big 3 need for sales volume, 'cuz there ain't enough lemkos out there...
 
cooter: I think I got it now..................

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