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Cuban cars.... by fezo
Dec 02, 2008 (11:20 am)
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Replying to: lokki (Dec 02, 2008 11:11 am)


 
Looks like a job for Andre!
 
One of the sites I was reading on American cars in Cuba mentioned how many of them had Lada engines dropped into them because they were easy to do and readily available. There's high praise...
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Re: Cooter [lemko] by bumpy
Dec 02, 2008 (12:06 pm)
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Replying to: lemko (Dec 02, 2008 10:42 am)

I can think of one of those cars that's still in good shape, but I have yet to actually see it on the road. The other half-dozen or so are deep into beater territory, worse off than the half-dozen flip-light Accords I see around here.
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Re: Cooter [lemko] by jimbres
Dec 02, 2008 (12:21 pm)
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Replying to: lemko (Dec 02, 2008 9:48 am)

I can't even get past the sales experience with Toyota.
 
I'll agree with you on this one. Honda dealers aren't much better, for that matter, & I'm a big fan of Honda vehicles. (Bought my 1st new car, a Civic, back in '74, & I currently have an '06 CRV.) In my area, their salespeople are either jerks or idiots. Thank God that I didn't have to pick my salesman's brain when I bought my CRV.
 
In contrast, a Cadillac salesman who helped me a few years ago when I stopped by to look at the CTS was competent & courteous - a real sales professional. If & when I decide to buy a Cadillac, I'll look for him.
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Re: Cooter [jimbres] by circlew
Dec 02, 2008 (12:40 pm)
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Replying to: jimbres (Dec 02, 2008 12:21 pm)

Yes, agree on the sales people but I bought my CR-V by working 5 dealers on the WWW.
 
Then, I negotiated further with the lowest dealer with the sales manager. It was what I expected at Honda. I'd rate the experience as satisfactory.
 
No way was I going to buy another GM with the experience with my 2003 GMC Yukon multiple failures.
 
BTW, I tried my best to Red Tag Sale a comparable model with the CR-V. Not even close in the value proposition.
 
Regards,
OW
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Re: Cooter [bumpy] by andre1969
Dec 02, 2008 (12:55 pm)
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Replying to: bumpy (Dec 02, 2008 12:06 pm)

I can think of one of those cars that's still in good shape, but I have yet to actually see it on the road. The other half-dozen or so are deep into beater territory, worse off than the half-dozen flip-light Accords I see around here.
 
I still see those first-gen FWD C- and H-bodies fairly regularly. In fact, there was this caramel-colored late 80's Olds 88 that started showing up in the parking lot at work. One evening though, outside the back entrance, I saw it broken down along the road. A couple months ago, my '76 LeMans stalled out at that same spot.
 
I see a cranberry Electra pretty regularly when I stop off at the liquor store that looks like it's in pretty good shape. Hey Lemko, want me to ask the guy if he wants to sell it?
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Re: Cooter [andre1969] by lemko
Dec 02, 2008 (1:00 pm)
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Replying to: andre1969 (Dec 02, 2008 12:55 pm)

Well if it's something like a 1979 Electra with the 403 V-8 and is in good shape by my standards - yes!
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Re: Cooter [lemko] by andre1969
Dec 02, 2008 (1:04 pm)
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Replying to: lemko (Dec 02, 2008 1:00 pm)

Oh no, it's not one of those "real" Electras. Hell, if it had a 403, I'd try to buy it myself! This is another late 80's model, like what you have. I can't remember if it's a Park Ave or just an Electra though.
 
Also, every once in awhile, I'll see a fairly young guy driving around in mid-80's Bonneville, the Malibu-based G-body. Looks like it's still in really good shape. Kinda shocking to see, but then maybe people say the same thing about me when they see me driving around in one of my '79 NY'ers!
 
There's also an early 80's Phoenix coupe that I see from time to time at work. White, and looks like it just rolled off the showroom floor. I know THAT has to be an anomaly though!
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Re: Cooter [andre1969] by lemko
Dec 02, 2008 (1:07 pm)
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Replying to: andre1969 (Dec 02, 2008 1:04 pm)

There's some young guys around my neighborhood who have a really nice champange-colored late '80s Oldsmobile Ninety-Eight Regency. They expressed interest in buying my Park Ave. There may yet be hope for the youth of America!
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Re: Cooter [lemko] by jipster
Dec 02, 2008 (1:28 pm)
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Replying to: lemko (Dec 02, 2008 9:48 am)

They separated us were throwing all kinds of terms at my girlfriend
 
How and why did they seperate you?
 
If your lady friend really wants a Camry I would try another dealership. If under different ownership I'm sure the experience would be much better.
 
Three out of the five cars I've owned have been made by the general. All very good and reliable. Current ride 99 Buick Regal (85k miles) has been excellent... will have owned 5 years in March.
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Re: Cooter [jimbres] by chikoo
Dec 02, 2008 (1:58 pm)
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Replying to: jimbres (Dec 02, 2008 12:21 pm)

Excellent viewpoints.
 
One has excellent product. Poor Salesmanship.
 
The Other has poor product and excellent salesmanship.
 
Who wins??
 
You know that they say, a good product speaks for itself

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