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Reality by imidazol97
Dec 02, 2008 (9:36 am)
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http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/081202/united_auto_workers_meeting.html
 
- Local United Auto Workers leaders from across the U.S. will hold an emergency meeting in Detroit on Wednesday to discuss concessions the union could make to help auto companies get government loans.
 
UAW leaders called the meeting Monday night in an e-mail, obtained by The Associated Press, to local union presidents and bargaining chairmen.
 
Among the subjects to be discussed at the meeting will be the possibility of restructuring the union-administered health care fund so that the automakers can delay payments to the multibillion-dollar fund, according to a person familiar with the matter.
 
The union leaders will also discuss potentially eliminating the jobs bank, in which laid-off workers keep receiving most of their pay. The person spoke on condition of anonymity because the ...
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Re: Myth No. 3 [grbeck] by steve_ HOST
Dec 02, 2008 (9:38 am)
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Replying to: grbeck (Dec 02, 2008 8:54 am)

Somehow, I doubt that Cuba, with its tropical climate, has had to apply salt to the roads because of snow and ice too many times over the past 50+ years.
 
I doubt that very many places in Cuba are more than 50 miles from the ocean and I suspect they have a lot of muddy roads there. There are a lot of good looking old cars there still in daily use. And a lot must look like this one.
 
The UAW "deplores the limits on the freedom of the Cuban people -- including restrictions on workers who seek free trade unions." link
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Re: Myth No. 3 [steve_] by imidazol97
Dec 02, 2008 (9:40 am)
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Replying to: steve_ (Dec 02, 2008 9:38 am)

Salt in the air is really hard on cars too. Friend had a 78 Honda CVCC that was rusting after two years in Charleston beach area.
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Re: Reality [imidazol97] by imidazol97
Dec 02, 2008 (9:44 am)
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Replying to: imidazol97 (Dec 02, 2008 9:36 am)

>- Local United Auto Workers leaders from across the U.S. will hold an emergency meeting in Detroit on Wednesday
 
I hope there's enough time for all of them to drive to Detroit for the meeting. I wouldn't want a congressperson to be upset by finding out they flew in an, gasp, _airplane_. Especially if the plane were a small charter or jet owned by the Unions... Hmmm. Can someone check the FAA site to see if they're flying any Union owned jets around for this meeting?
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Re: Reality [imidazol97] by steve_ HOST
Dec 02, 2008 (9:46 am)
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Replying to: imidazol97 (Dec 02, 2008 9:44 am)

I saw a blurb last week that said Gettlefinger flew commercial to the last Congressional hearings. Zimbio
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Re: Cooter [gagrice] by lemko
Dec 02, 2008 (9:48 am)
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Replying to: gagrice (Dec 02, 2008 8:25 am)

I can't even get past the sales experience with Toyota. I foolishly went to look at a Camry with my girlfriend. The guys were arrogant and already assumed you were buying the second you stepped on the lot. They separated us were throwing all kinds of terms at my girlfriend that were confusing to say the least. She looked back at me with a bewildered look that said "Help!" as I was pushed into a corner over by a 4-Runner. It was my quick thinking that got us out of there before we lost our wallets and out wits. They were all upset when we didn't just cave-in. I don't care if a Camry is tougher than a tank, comes with free gold bullion in the trunk, $10,000 cash in the glovebox, and an ashtray full of flawless diamonds, I'm never setting foot on a Toyota lot again!
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Re: Cooter [andre1969] by lemko
Dec 02, 2008 (9:53 am)
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Replying to: andre1969 (Dec 02, 2008 8:38 am)

It was a 1989 Mercury Grand Marquis LS and the car was about 9 years-old at the time. Still, the repair wasn't too expensive considering it was a transmission. The rest of the car was in excellent shape. Still, even that experience wouldn't keep me from buying a Ford in the future. I just don't care for Ford as much as I do GM or Mopar.
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lemko by marsha7
Dec 02, 2008 (9:55 am)
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"Based on my own personal experiences, as well as my friends and families owning Detroit's vehicles over the last 25 years, none of us fit in to your example. We bought several Big 3 vehicles when we were in our 20s, and many more afterward, and they just keep going and going and going like the Energizer bunny. The vehicles are over 20 years old, upwards of 100K miles, and they are still with us."
 
lemko, your experience may not be unique, just simply not enough of you to matter...unless you have been under a rock for 20 years, you have to know that there has been people grumbling about Big 3 cars for more years than I care to count...one would have to be naive to not see their impending bankruptcy...while I blame it heavily on poor workmanship from the union (extra screws, windows that don't fit, doors that don't line up are not poor mgmt but workers who don't care about ehri product) and other may blame it on mgmt, either way the PRODUCT is being deserted for what many believe are superior products, Toy and Honda...
 
Telling us about your 20 year old Buick ain't gonna sway anyone to walk into a Big 3 dealer, because your experience simply hasn't happened enough times to matter...
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Re: Myth No. 3 [steve_] by grbeck
Dec 02, 2008 (10:00 am)
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Replying to: steve_ (Dec 02, 2008 9:38 am)

With few exceptions - the Edsel convertible and 1957 Cadillac - those cars all look heavily modified, with new paint, sheetmetal, etc.

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