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Replying to: gagrice (Nov 30, 2008 8:50 pm) Gettlefinger today said that the union costs are "now competitive". So I ask why the bailout is needed, and why the D3 can't make a competitive small car if their costs are so competitive?  
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Replying to: tlong (Nov 30, 2008 11:52 pm) If that be true, why can't they bring some of those profits here to see them through the crisis? Why can't they bring those "winning" vehicles here to sell and get back on track while tooling up to build them here? I recently drove a rental Aveo sedan. Didn't care for the roller skate exterior treatment or the tiny wheels/tires but the rest of the vehicle was ok. Pleasantly surprised at the way it drove. Except for its outward appearance, I wouldn't have a problem using it as a short distance commuter, or scoot around town vehicle. Actually kind of fun to "Zip" around locally, especially at the shopping malls and dealing with parking spaces. But there are Asian vehicles such as the Fit, Yaris, Scion, Versa, as well as offerings from South Korea in the same price range, that are already established. It would need to be priced really low to get them on the road. Perception is that if we see a lot of something on the road, it must be good enough to consider buying. Perception is reality.  Ford seems to be on the right track with the new Focus and more expensive Fusion. Kip
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Replying to: nvbanker (Nov 30, 2008 7:40 pm) It's not like any of them is on life support personally. At least until the company makes money, they should sacrifice. Better than getting fired! I agree that the C.E.O. must make a good salary but when the company does not perform for years? Come on now. You would fire him if it was YOUR company, no? Regards, OW |
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Replying to: erikwi (Nov 30, 2008 6:20 pm) |
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Replying to: circlew (Dec 01, 2008 4:29 am)
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Replying to: lemko (Dec 01, 2008 6:21 am) It was way more than he was worth, if you look at the net profit at GM. It could also be why he keeps signing onto UAW contracts that are not good for the bottom line. If Congress signs onto a bailout without getting rid of all the Job banks it will be criminal. A company paying those that retired after a long career is a good thing. Paying people to sit and not work is poor management. They also need to raise the age that you can start collecting retirement. Lastly take all control from the Union on modernization of the factories. They NEVER should have had a say in how a company operates. All goes back to worthless management. |
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Something was said somewhere that the UAW and GM had agreed to changes in pay and benefits that would allow a lower labor cost by the end of 2009? Does someone actually know more about that agreement in a way they can explain if and how it remedies some of the perceptions I and others have? |
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Replying to: lemko (Nov 28, 2008 8:36 pm) Best bet is to quit asap while performing at 100 percent. In large companies, one can seek a transfer to another position/department with a new boss if pay is ok and overall company philosophy toward workers is good. Are UAW workers treated poorly or disrespected or are they paid poorly? Some years back, there was some kind of union contract that required that rail companies keep on an extra person in the locomotive to do nothing after the need for the associated position was eliminated by technology.
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Replying to: dallasdude1 (Nov 28, 2008 9:06 pm) What is a "UAW" product? Where are the facts/data on decomposition? To what extent do UAW employees determine products to be manufactured, designs, engineering and quality of materials and parts used in products?
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From the Philadelphia newspaper: Offering to Support the Unemployed God bless this wonderful woman. There are some things she points out that are very very disturbing. |
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