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Re: Myth No. 3 [dallasdude1] by tlong
Nov 30, 2008 (4:59 pm)
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Replying to: dallasdude1 (Nov 30, 2008 4:24 pm)

Then too there is an enviromental problem of where do you dump these batteries.
 
So you argue against the hybrids with this assertion, but boy oh boy the Volt is a great thing!
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Re: Myth No. 3 [lemko] by circlew
Nov 30, 2008 (5:04 pm)
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Replying to: lemko (Nov 30, 2008 4:52 pm)

No, all hybrids, save the Prius are not worth the extra cash. I considered a Hylander Hybrid but it does not return the savings due to the price.
 
The Escalade and the LS460 are in the nose-bleed hilarious comedy category AFAIC!
 
I expect high performance before a price premium can justify the added technology, be that in cost savings, added comfort or physical capability over pure stock versions.
 
The Prius is really the only hybrid that stands alone and making sense.
 
Regards,
OW
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Re: DD, Out of touch on so many issues [dallasdude1] by gagrice
Nov 30, 2008 (5:30 pm)
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Replying to: dallasdude1 (Nov 30, 2008 4:18 pm)

Your hate for the UAW is no secret and you have yet to admit that they have built the greatest model of them all, the American middle class.
 
The UAW leaders are as much to blame for the current condition of the Big 3 as the management that enabled them. They were all part of contracts that dumped the burden of retirees onto the future workforce. To me that is as bad as our Federal Governments lousy SS programs. There was no thought of the future only the greed of the present in those poorly written contracts. Now you and I the tax payers will have to cover those retirees when GM falls and they will. As a life long Union person I take pride in the way our Union runs their business. We set aside money for each man hour worked in a retirement fund that is closely guarded by both current and future retirees. It does not depend on some fictitious worker ten years from now paying for our retirement. If the UAW had not been such an arrogant bunch of thugs they could have gotten pointers from Unions that were around a LONG TIME before they came into being. They are a small fry Union poorly run and we are now seeing the results of their poorly written contracts.
 
If you think the UAW set the standard for middle class American workers you live in a dream world.
 
As far as Obama getting elected. "Welcome back Carter" with a Clinton controlled cabinet. Better get your name in the hat to rent the Lincoln Bedroom. He has already back peddled on the GM Bailout. He will probably be in China when the legislation needs to be signed. Working on his one World government with him as KING.
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Re: Myth No. 3 [tlong] by gagrice
Nov 30, 2008 (5:53 pm)
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Replying to: tlong (Nov 30, 2008 4:59 pm)

So you argue against the hybrids with this assertion, but boy oh boy the Volt is a great thing
 
One of many DD inconsistencies. He goes by the Credo "Do as I say, Not as I DO".
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Re: I'm Confused ROGELIOV [circlew] by erikwi
Nov 30, 2008 (6:20 pm)
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Replying to: circlew (Nov 30, 2008 10:34 am)

I agree totally! If they bail out the big 3, then I want a bailout too! It would be nice to have a paid for house and not have bills piling up.
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Re: I'm Confused ROGELIOV [erikwi] by gagrice
Nov 30, 2008 (6:26 pm)
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Replying to: erikwi (Nov 30, 2008 6:20 pm)

I want a bailout too!
 
Me TOO!! And I promise to stay solvent and will slit my wrists if I fail. Get Wagoner and Gettlefinger to sign in blood that they will commit harry carry if the bailout fails to produce a profitable car company in the USA....
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Re: Myth No. 1 [dallasdude1] by jimbres
Nov 30, 2008 (6:59 pm)
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Replying to: dallasdude1 (Nov 30, 2008 4:30 pm)

Did you see the dateline on this story? It's March 31, 1988 - more than 20 years ago.
 
Still, I'm glad to see that you've kicked the copy & paste habit.
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Re: DD, Out of touch on so many issues [tlong] by dallasdude1
Nov 30, 2008 (7:36 pm)
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Replying to: tlong (Nov 30, 2008 4:57 pm)

To give the UAW credit for the middle class is highly ridiculous. They may have contributed to a small exent, but it is 2008, not 1940, and now they are helping destroy it.
 
Sounds like you have no clue and or rational answer for the greatest middle class in history. Changing the subject isn't going to change history or fact.
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Re: I'm Confused ROGELIOV [circlew] by nvbanker
Nov 30, 2008 (7:40 pm)
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Replying to: circlew (Nov 30, 2008 10:34 am)

If I were Mullaly, I'd have told the senate where to stick their corporate jet comment as well. You act as if the CEO does nothing to earn that salary - unlike the union, there is no leverage they hold over the stockholders head to get that salary, the market pays for guys with their talents and skills, just like a football player. It seems extreme to us, but you'd take it if you could get it, you know you would.

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