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Replying to: dallasdude1 (Nov 30, 2008 4:30 pm) What about their cars? Have they been dumping for the last 20 years and never been caught? Why can they sell them here in the U.S.? Could it be they are better than anything the Tiny 3 build? I thought you had faith in America. The American consumer is smart to buy great products despite their origin. Who knows? In the long run, American Cars can become first rate again. We will wait and see. Regards, OW |
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Replying to: dallasdude1 (Nov 30, 2008 4:30 pm) Sure; selling products at a loss to drive your smaller competitors out of business. GM, Ford, and Chrysler have been dumping product in the US for half a decade now. It doesn't seem to be working for them. |
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Replying to: circlew (Nov 30, 2008 4:40 pm) 
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Replying to: dallasdude1 (Nov 30, 2008 4:18 pm) To give the UAW credit for the middle class is highly ridiculous. They may have contributed to a small exent, but it is 2008, not 1940, and now they are helping destroy it. Today Gettelfinger was in the press exclaiming about how critical it was to give the bailout money to the D3. The leeches sucking the golden goose dry are concerned about their goose!
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Replying to: dallasdude1 (Nov 30, 2008 4:24 pm) So you argue against the hybrids with this assertion, but boy oh boy the Volt is a great thing!
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Replying to: lemko (Nov 30, 2008 4:52 pm) The Escalade and the LS460 are in the nose-bleed hilarious comedy category AFAIC! I expect high performance before a price premium can justify the added technology, be that in cost savings, added comfort or physical capability over pure stock versions. The Prius is really the only hybrid that stands alone and making sense. Regards, OW |
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Replying to: dallasdude1 (Nov 30, 2008 4:18 pm) The UAW leaders are as much to blame for the current condition of the Big 3 as the management that enabled them. They were all part of contracts that dumped the burden of retirees onto the future workforce. To me that is as bad as our Federal Governments lousy SS programs. There was no thought of the future only the greed of the present in those poorly written contracts. Now you and I the tax payers will have to cover those retirees when GM falls and they will. As a life long Union person I take pride in the way our Union runs their business. We set aside money for each man hour worked in a retirement fund that is closely guarded by both current and future retirees. It does not depend on some fictitious worker ten years from now paying for our retirement. If the UAW had not been such an arrogant bunch of thugs they could have gotten pointers from Unions that were around a LONG TIME before they came into being. They are a small fry Union poorly run and we are now seeing the results of their poorly written contracts. If you think the UAW set the standard for middle class American workers you live in a dream world. As far as Obama getting elected. "Welcome back Carter" with a Clinton controlled cabinet. Better get your name in the hat to rent the Lincoln Bedroom. He has already back peddled on the GM Bailout. He will probably be in China when the legislation needs to be signed. Working on his one World government with him as KING. |
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Replying to: tlong (Nov 30, 2008 4:59 pm) One of many DD inconsistencies. He goes by the Credo "Do as I say, Not as I DO". |
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Replying to: circlew (Nov 30, 2008 10:34 am) |
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Replying to: erikwi (Nov 30, 2008 6:20 pm) Me TOO!! And I promise to stay solvent and will slit my wrists if I fail. Get Wagoner and Gettlefinger to sign in blood that they will commit harry carry if the bailout fails to produce a profitable car company in the USA....
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