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#5613 of 16701 Re: Myth No. 5 [dieselone] by dallasdude1 Nov 30, 2008 (3:15 pm)
Replying to: dieselone (Nov 30, 2008 8:00 am) As you have never ever driven the last Silverado AWD SS. However, look at the below link and tell what you think. http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/trucks/112_0902_2009_half_ton_truck_comparis- on/index.html Replies to this message: dieselone (Nov 30, 2008 3:59 pm)
#5614 of 16701 Re: Myth No. 3 [tlong] by dallasdude1 Nov 30, 2008 (3:29 pm)
Replying to: tlong (Nov 29, 2008 3:17 pm) Go ahead and buy one of those Honda Hybrids, they are a joke and my co workers son had to roll one into his new car note. I was asking, just to be informed and he mentioned it turn off at every stop and that its was a pile of junk. I think the technology isn't there just yet. Then too, to be fair, the Hybrid Tahoe is noisy pile of junk too. Thats from owners. I might look into what Edmonds has on the Hybrids. Replies to this message: dieselone (Nov 30, 2008 4:15 pm) circlew (Nov 30, 2008 4:40 pm) lemko (Nov 30, 2008 4:52 pm) circlew (Nov 30, 2008 5:04 pm) grbeck (Dec 01, 2008 1:37 pm) dallasdude1 (Dec 01, 2008 6:25 pm) grbeck (Dec 02, 2008 8:54 am) and 4 more... chikoo (Dec 02, 2008 10:03 am) and 2 more...
#5615 of 16701 Re: Myth No. 5 [dallasdude1] by dieselone Nov 30, 2008 (3:59 pm)
Replying to: dallasdude1 (Nov 30, 2008 3:15 pm) As you have never ever driven the last Silverado AWD SS. However, look at the below link and tell what you think. I haven't because I don't know anyone who's wasted their money on a Silverado SS. As for the link you posted, I was discussing the 5.3 and 6.0 that were saddled to the 4 speeds in the 1/2 ton Silverado's as the 6.2/6speed was not offered until 2009 . GM finally can beat Nissan and basically match Toyota in the power department but gets trounced in fuel economy. Similar performance to the Toyota, but worst fuel economy of the group. Those are the slowest 0-60 times I've ever seen for a Tundra. Most I've seen have been in the 6.2 range, I've seen Escalade 0-60 times around 6.2 also with the 6.2/6speed, so I'll chalk it up to testing conditions. I'm not saying Nissan or Toyota build a better truck as I think the Ford and Chevy are tops, but in the powertrain dept. Ford is still way behind and GM has been, but they still need big cubes to get anything done and fuel economy sucks with the 6.2 or 6.0L. How does GM offer the tallest gearing and still get the worst fuel economy (Ok, exept for Nissan which has a taller axle ratio, but I believe the trans gears or shorter). I've seen several truck/suv tests where GM has higher rated EPA mileage but ends up with the worst observed mileage. Particularly with the 6.0L and 6.2.
#5616 of 16701 Re: Myth No. 3 [dallasdude1] by dieselone Nov 30, 2008 (4:15 pm)
Replying to: dallasdude1 (Nov 30, 2008 3:29 pm) Then too, to be fair, the Hybrid Tahoe is noisy pile of junk too. Thats from owners. I might look into what Edmonds has on the Hybrids. Hmm, I've never heard that before. I finally saw my first Tahoe Hybrid that wasn't on a dealer lot the other day. Where is all the noise coming from? Electrical Relays? Or the trans setup, or could it be low resistance tires? The Hybrid Tahoe is interesting with the 20mpg achievable city rating, but the reduced tow rating (6,000lbs won't cut it for me) and huge price just isn't worth it IMO, unless of course gas goes well north of $5/gal. Will Ford or Chevy just give me a diesel Suburban or Expedition! I'd bask in my diesel torque glory and never bad mouth a Ford or GM v8 again:)
#5617 of 16701 Re: DD, Out of touch on so many issues [gagrice] by dallasdude1 Nov 30, 2008 (4:18 pm)
Replying to: gagrice (Nov 29, 2008 12:12 pm) Now tell us how you really feel? Since you were wrong about Obama being elected. Is there any chance that your wrong once again? Lets not forget the buddy buddy relation ENRON CEO Kenny and GW Bush had. There are endless letters out there on the net if you care to look. ENRON and the GOP were in bed together. Your hate for the UAW is no secret and you have yet to admit that they have built the greatest model of them all, the American middle class. Admission is the first step to recovery. Replies to this message: tlong (Nov 30, 2008 4:57 pm) dallasdude1 (Nov 30, 2008 7:36 pm) gagrice (Nov 30, 2008 8:50 pm) and 3 more... gagrice (Nov 30, 2008 5:30 pm) grbeck (Dec 01, 2008 1:41 pm) dallasdude1 (Dec 01, 2008 6:33 pm) gagrice (Dec 01, 2008 7:41 pm) avatexrs1 (Dec 02, 2008 7:20 am) and 12 more... grbeck (Dec 02, 2008 9:00 am)
#5618 of 16701 Re: Myth No. 3 [tlong] by dallasdude1 Nov 30, 2008 (4:24 pm)
Replying to: tlong (Nov 29, 2008 3:17 pm) After some research, most owners agree that thye aren't exactly highway cars. Then too there is an enviromental problem of where do you dump these batteries. I'm not against them, just being practical. Replies to this message: tlong (Nov 30, 2008 4:59 pm) gagrice (Nov 30, 2008 5:53 pm)
#5619 of 16701 Re: Myth No. 1 [bumpy] by dallasdude1 Nov 30, 2008 (4:30 pm)
Replying to: bumpy (Nov 29, 2008 3:31 pm) Do you understand what dumping is? Toyota and Honda can't sell those car anywhere but here in America. This is common to get rid of the competition and then they can name their price and you then have little choice but to pay. http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=940DE3DF143BF932A05750C0A96E94826- - 0 Replies to this message: circlew (Nov 30, 2008 4:47 pm) bumpy (Nov 30, 2008 4:50 pm) jimbres (Nov 30, 2008 6:59 pm) dallasdude1 (Nov 30, 2008 7:54 pm)
#5620 of 16701 Re: Myth No. 3 [dallasdude1] by circlew Nov 30, 2008 (4:40 pm)
Replying to: dallasdude1 (Nov 30, 2008 3:29 pm) So imagine the hilarious joke called the Escalade Hybrid! $75K for savings the owner will never see. Save the $10K and get a standard Escalade. Regards, OW Replies to this message: lemko (Nov 30, 2008 4:52 pm) circlew (Nov 30, 2008 5:04 pm)
#5621 of 16701 Re: Myth No. 1 [dallasdude1] by circlew Nov 30, 2008 (4:47 pm)
Replying to: dallasdude1 (Nov 30, 2008 4:30 pm) Toyota and Honda can't sell those car anywhere but here in America. This is common to get rid of the competition and then they can name their price and you then have little choice but to pay. What about their cars? Have they been dumping for the last 20 years and never been caught? Why can they sell them here in the U.S.? Could it be they are better than anything the Tiny 3 build? I thought you had faith in America. The American consumer is smart to buy great products despite their origin. Who knows? In the long run, American Cars can become first rate again. We will wait and see. Regards, OW
#5622 of 16701 Re: Myth No. 1 [dallasdude1] by bumpy Nov 30, 2008 (4:50 pm)
Replying to: dallasdude1 (Nov 30, 2008 4:30 pm) Do you understand what dumping is? Sure; selling products at a loss to drive your smaller competitors out of business. GM, Ford, and Chrysler have been dumping product in the US for half a decade now. It doesn't seem to be working for them.

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