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Replying to: dallasdude1 (Nov 29, 2008 5:45 pm) Have you actually driven one! I won't say the Titan is the best truck on the market; acceleration times aren't what I'd buy a truck or SUV for, but referring that the titan is slow tells me you've never driven one. It will smoke any 5.3 powered chevy or 5.4 powered Ford and it felt a lot stronger than the few 6.0 GM trucks/Suvs I've driven. I have some boating friends that have an Armada and tow a heavier boat than mine, the Armada will dust my previous 5.3 Suburban and my current 5.4 Expedition. The 5.6 5speed combo is unbelievably strong for it's power ratings. Hills my 5.3 powered Suburban struggled to maintain 50mph with my 4500lb boat the Armada would pull 5,500lbs 65 mph w/o a problem. Granted the Nissan truck/suvs have their own issues, power is not one them.
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Replying to: andre1969 (Nov 29, 2008 4:37 pm) http://www.fordvehicles.com/2009f150/?page=/durability/ Admittedly, it's a Ford site, but the evidence is pretty irrefutable, the camera doesn't lie. The Japanese just don't quite have the truck thing down yet. |
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The point is cash burn is ridiculous at the Det. 3 and there is no light at the end of the tunnel. Sure, Wall Street has it's share of failures but please don't tell me we have a bunch of geniuses running Ford, GM or Chrysler! Since you brought up cash flow, how would you rate these auto giants now? Their model is choking them to death because even with the changes put in place, without those massive profits from SUV and truck sales, cash flow positive will be impossible without HUGE cuts now. How do you think they will be able to pay back $25B? I'll wager in June they need more bailout cash. If I had the final say on help to all 3 auto companies, it would be: NO CASH FOR YOU! NEXT!  Oh, and I'd fire the C.E.O.s today! What gall Mulally had when asked about considering cuts to his compensation. "No, I'm good!" Wagoner: "I am not prepared to comment." Well, "Your FIRED!" Regards, OW
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Replying to: circlew (Nov 30, 2008 10:34 am) I will grant you that if the vehicle buying portion of the recession continues more than another year then Ford has big time trouble and they could still get sucked down by a GM bankruptcy. My point is that GM is the big problem and the one that actually needs the cash now. |
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Replying to: dallasdude1 (Nov 29, 2008 11:23 am)
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| it's hard to refute what you say just above this post. And that is one of the reasons that a GM loan/bailout package is so important. It's just hard to fathom it because, unfortunately, the UAW is not going to want to give much in concessions to help Company out. Can't ya just see it coming, the fright and frustration of giving up some of the enormous bene's, main pension payout(this one would really sting Joe wrench-turner). Going to be a World of Hurt, to quote Patterson Hood in one of his Drive-By Trucker songs. | |
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Replying to: dieselone (Nov 30, 2008 8:00 am) http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/trucks/112_0902_2009_half_ton_truck_comparis- on/index.html
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Replying to: tlong (Nov 29, 2008 3:17 pm) Then too, to be fair, the Hybrid Tahoe is noisy pile of junk too. Thats from owners. I might look into what Edmonds has on the Hybrids.
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