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Replying to: andre1969 (Nov 29, 2008 4:37 pm) Here in Texas we have the same feeling about the prior Tundra. The wheel base was smaller than a full size truck too. Then the bones were tiny and not worthy of a truck. Toyota has been going to small screws and parts in all of their cars and trucks. Truck people seem to work on their own and noticed this from day one. So they beefed everything up American standards. The whole thing reminds me of the T100. The Titan was geared too low to compete with American trucks. Americans have the need for speed.
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Replying to: tlong (Nov 29, 2008 12:08 pm) |
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Replying to: dallasdude1 (Nov 29, 2008 5:34 pm) Sounds like a good plan to me. Better get it done in TX, most other states have forgotten how. The stockholders need to get organized and stop the theft by those on the top. Toss a few out of the top floor of their Ivory Towers. |
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Replying to: dallasdude1 (Nov 29, 2008 10:43 am) I believe the Aveo is actually built 100% by Suzuki. |
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| by GM's South Korean entry called GM Daewoo Auto & Technology Co. Serious work on the Aveo started round about 2002 or so. | |
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Replying to: dallasdude1 (Nov 29, 2008 5:45 pm) Have you actually driven one! I won't say the Titan is the best truck on the market; acceleration times aren't what I'd buy a truck or SUV for, but referring that the titan is slow tells me you've never driven one. It will smoke any 5.3 powered chevy or 5.4 powered Ford and it felt a lot stronger than the few 6.0 GM trucks/Suvs I've driven. I have some boating friends that have an Armada and tow a heavier boat than mine, the Armada will dust my previous 5.3 Suburban and my current 5.4 Expedition. The 5.6 5speed combo is unbelievably strong for it's power ratings. Hills my 5.3 powered Suburban struggled to maintain 50mph with my 4500lb boat the Armada would pull 5,500lbs 65 mph w/o a problem. Granted the Nissan truck/suvs have their own issues, power is not one them.
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Replying to: andre1969 (Nov 29, 2008 4:37 pm) http://www.fordvehicles.com/2009f150/?page=/durability/ Admittedly, it's a Ford site, but the evidence is pretty irrefutable, the camera doesn't lie. The Japanese just don't quite have the truck thing down yet. |
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The point is cash burn is ridiculous at the Det. 3 and there is no light at the end of the tunnel. Sure, Wall Street has it's share of failures but please don't tell me we have a bunch of geniuses running Ford, GM or Chrysler! Since you brought up cash flow, how would you rate these auto giants now? Their model is choking them to death because even with the changes put in place, without those massive profits from SUV and truck sales, cash flow positive will be impossible without HUGE cuts now. How do you think they will be able to pay back $25B? I'll wager in June they need more bailout cash. If I had the final say on help to all 3 auto companies, it would be: NO CASH FOR YOU! NEXT!  Oh, and I'd fire the C.E.O.s today! What gall Mulally had when asked about considering cuts to his compensation. "No, I'm good!" Wagoner: "I am not prepared to comment." Well, "Your FIRED!" Regards, OW
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