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Without those good paying UAW jobs, you have no one to buy/qualify for those empty homes. Those UAW workers will have NO impact on housing sales in the worst hit states of CA, FL & NV. I recall a neighbor, she worked for American Airlines, she bought all she could when its was below a dollar a share, she put up her entire 401K plan on the line. I recall 1000s of employees putting their faith in Enron stock also. GM is just about as likely to stay out of bankruptcy as ENRON. First, Detroit can make it. The car companies have introduced promising new fuel-efficient models, and U.A.W. workers outproduce their international rivals in eight out of nine categories in which their United States plants compete. If that is true and I don't believe it is. Why is GM losing money even when the economy was booming up to the end of 2007? GM is overweight and poorly managed. Let them die and other automakers will take their place and do a better job of building fuel efficient cars IN THE USA. The most important model Detroit produced in the 20th century was the middle class for many millions of Americans. It was a very poor model with NO plan of sustainability. I think GM figured they would dump all those retirees onto the public from the get go. It is run so much like our worthless Congress it is scary. The only big difference is Congress owns the mint. So they have found they can print money as needed. Chevrolet Aveo subcompact is the least expensive car to buy and operate. So the Koreans can build it and sell it cheaper than a UAW shop in the USA. The most fuel-efficient full-size pickups from GM, Ford and Chrysler Ford and Chevy trucks still the number one and two best selling vehicles. Built in the USA. High profit, yet GM has lost close to $100 billion in the last 5 years. They were bleeding red ink when everyone else was making big PROFIT. GM has a losing business model. Whether it is the UAW or management they need to just go out of business and let Ford and Chrysler pick up the slack. The Detroit Three got into the hybrid business late, but Ford and GM each now offers more hybrid models than Honda or Nissan, with several more due to hit the road in early 2009. Who Cares? They are money losers and will be replaced before GM ever gets their act together. Ford has had theirs for 5 years already. Don't forget I owned one of the first 300 Hybrids GMC built. It was nothing to write home about and the mileage was no better. It was just an expensive standby generator. Collection agencies, pawn shops, and gun sales are doing great. On that we agree. With the element that became empowered during this last election, you cannot be to well armed.
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Replying to: marsha7 (Nov 29, 2008 6:45 am) If that's water under the bridge, then what happened in 1993 should be too. What's good for the goose..... |
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you took the words right out of my mouth! I was going to post this same article I read in our cities car section that come every Saturday. The jig is up!!! Toyota/Honda no longer own all rights to quality and reliability ratings, and even safety ratings (Ford). This article of "Six myths about the Detroit big 3 automakers refuse to die" is great stuff. This is what needs to come out more from the media. I believe with the internet and the freedom of exchange of information is what forced the media to wake up. I speak from having owned Ford products for the last 15-20 years and not having any major issues. Perception is now what GM and Ford need to conquer.
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Replying to: scape2 (Nov 29, 2008 2:13 pm) Plus more products that people (besides some on this board) want to buy.
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Replying to: carnaught (Nov 29, 2008 2:52 pm) I will say taht I;d expect anyone buying a Fusion or a Malibu rather than a Camry or Accord will likely be pretty OK with it. |
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Replying to: dallasdude1 (Nov 29, 2008 10:43 am) What about the Prius and Honda Civic Hybrid? How many mpg does the best hybrid get from the D3? The Cobalt just rated in the bottom of the pack in the latest CU survey of cars that owners would buy again. The Prius and Civic hybrid were at the top.
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Replying to: dallasdude1 (Nov 29, 2008 10:45 am) So conversely, the D3 should have spent billions on small cars to make them competitive, too! |
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Replying to: dallasdude1 (Nov 29, 2008 10:46 am) Their hybrids are just not nearly as good, and are much farther from paying for themselves when you factor in their cost spread vs. mileage improvements. |
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Replying to: dallasdude1 (Nov 29, 2008 11:23 am) You might have missed the other poster's point. Every company suffering (true) is not the same as going to the government in private jets asking for $25B. |
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