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Re: I'm Confused ROGELIOV [gagrice] by dallasdude1
Nov 29, 2008 (9:55 am)
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Replying to: gagrice (Nov 29, 2008 6:33 am)

So when they do finally throw in the towel we will be stuck bailing out all the retirees they leave hanging. Save that $25 billion and just plan on picking up the pieces in 2009.
 
Without those good paying UAW jobs, you have no one to buy/qualify for those empty homes. Its a catch 22, and now more than ever we need to stick together as Americans. I'm rather optimistic about GM and have seen may out there buying up their stock. If they are right, that bottom fishing may pay off their home and put a Cadillac on the driveway. I quite don't see a years inventory of homes moving as soon as 2009 and or the economy picking up till much later. 2012 is being optimistic.
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Re: I'm Confused ROGELIOV [gagrice] by dallasdude1
Nov 29, 2008 (10:05 am)
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Replying to: gagrice (Nov 29, 2008 5:09 am)

The smart GM stockholders sold out when the stock was at $75. I made a couple bucks a share selling at $27. I don't think you will ever see GM come back. NO ONE TRUSTS THEM TO MAKE A PROFIT.
 
One could argue that giving all employees stock opitions would be a good thing and let them think about the bottomline. 100 shares a piece and wait a year to see if in fact that stock doubles or more.
 
I recall a neighbor, she worked for American Airlines, she bought all she could when its was below a dollar a share, she put up her entire 401K plan on the line. Even with the concessions her union made, she was ahead by millions. I do recall her reading Forbes and other business magazines.
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Re: Are economist like weathermen? [dallasdude1] by circlew
Nov 29, 2008 (10:08 am)
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I am sticking to simple Economics because I do not know as much as you or Dr. Perry.
 
The secret to Automotive Manufacturing success will be sans UAW. Regardless of Religion, Politics or color of your skin!
 
Regards,
OW
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Re: I'm Confused ROGELIOV [dallasdude1] by circlew
Nov 29, 2008 (10:11 am)
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Replying to: dallasdude1 (Nov 29, 2008 9:55 am)

I quite don't see a years inventory of homes moving as soon as 2009 and or the economy picking up till much later. 2012 is being optimistic.
 
Let me see, $25B divided by $3Billon per month = 8 months. What happens then?
 
Based on economic recovery in 2012, the Big 3 are going to be history, no?
 
Regards,
OW
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Re: I'm Confused ROGELIOV [circlew] by dallasdude1
Nov 29, 2008 (10:29 am)
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Replying to: circlew (Nov 29, 2008 10:11 am)

I'll bet you also thought McCain was going to be president too. Where ever do you get your numbers? Even Rush/Drudge aren't that stupid?
 
Re “Sync, and Swim Together,” by Daniel Kahneman and Andrew M. Rosenfield (Op-Ed, Nov. 25):
 
The notion that Detroit automakers should simultaneously declare bankruptcy may be the single worst policy idea to address the crisis to date.
 
First, Detroit can make it. The car companies have introduced promising new fuel-efficient models, and U.A.W. workers outproduce their international rivals in eight out of nine categories in which their United States plants compete.
 
Second, the disruption of even a planned bankruptcy would sink auto suppliers, devastate communities and push states like Michigan over the edge. It would cost tens of billions of dollars in lost tax revenue and social services just to clean up the wreckage.
 
Instead, $25 billion in loan guarantees allows automakers to bridge the economic rapids.
 
The most important model Detroit produced in the 20th century was the middle class for many millions of Americans. We need to ensure that that model drives into the 21st century, not off an economic cliff.
 
Harley Shaiken
Berkeley, Calif., Nov. 25, 2008
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Myth No. 1 by dallasdude1
Nov 29, 2008 (10:37 am)
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Nobody buys their vehicles.
 
Reality
 
General Motors Corp., Ford Motor Co. and Chrysler LLC sold 8.5 million vehicles in the United States last year and millions more around the world. GM outsold Toyota by about 1.2 million vehicles in the United States last year and holds a U.S. lead over Toyota of about 560,000 so far this year. Globally, GM in 2007 remained the world's largest automaker, selling 9,369,524 vehicles worldwide -- about 3,000 more than Toyota.
 
Ford outsold Honda by about 850,000 and Nissan by more than 1.3 million vehicles in the United States last year.
 
Chrysler sold more vehicles here than Nissan and Hyundai combined in 2007 and so far this year.
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Myth No. 2 by dallasdude1
Nov 29, 2008 (10:41 am)
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They build unreliable junk.
 
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The creaky, leaky vehicles of the 1980s and '90s are long gone. Consumer Reports recently found that "Ford's reliability is now on par with good Japanese automakers." The independent J.D. Power Initial Quality Study scored Buick, Cadillac, Chevrolet, Ford, GMC, Mercury, Pontiac and Lincoln brands' overall quality as high or higher than that of Acura, Audi, BMW, Honda, Nissan, Scion, Volkswagen and Volvo.
 
Power rated the Chevrolet Malibu the highest-quality midsize sedan. Both the Malibu and Ford Fusion scored better than the Honda Accord and Toyota Camry.
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Myth No. 3 by dallasdude1
Nov 29, 2008 (10:43 am)
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They build gas-guzzlers.
 
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All of the Detroit Three build midsize sedans the Environmental Protection Agency rates at 29-33 miles per gallon on the highway. The most fuel-efficient Chevrolet Malibu gets 33 m.p.g. on the highway, 2 m.p.g. better than the best Honda Accord. The most fuel-efficient Ford Focus has the same highway fuel economy ratings as the most efficient Toyota Corolla. The most fuel-efficient Chevrolet Cobalt has the same city fuel economy and better highway fuel economy than the most efficient non-hybrid Honda Civic. A recent study by Edmunds.com found that the Chevrolet Aveo subcompact is the least expensive car to buy and operate.

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