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Re: Only second-rate countries... [jimbres] by dallasdude1
Nov 21, 2008 (9:44 pm)
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Replying to: jimbres (Nov 21, 2008 3:36 pm)

It would make more sense for foreign brands to cherry-pick by buying up the most modern of the Big Three plants & then shutting down older plants at home. It wouldn't surprise me if some German auto executives are thinking along these lines; German auto workers are the world's most expensive. In comparison, non-union U.S. workers are a screaming bargain.
 
Oh so now you want to bombard us with logic?
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BMW fans by steve_ HOST
Nov 21, 2008 (9:59 pm)
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For those of you who got a bit off-track with the BMW thread, may I suggest you take it to BMW History and Engine Technology?
 
If you want a copy of your removed post, zap me an email.
 
In UAW news (more like playing "what if"):
 
"And if bankruptcies really do break the back of the UAW, the non-union car makers may again see the Northeast as an attractive place to assemble vehicles, suggested economist Peter Morici, a business professor at the University of Maryland, who testified this week at a Senate finance committee hearing that was considering $25-billion in loans for the Detroit Three.
 
“If the unions are weakened, you might see the Japanese move into the Northeast,” he said."
 
The Detroit Three ... Two? One? (reportonbusiness.com)
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Porsche 928 S (sport) by dallasdude1
Nov 21, 2008 (10:22 pm)
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What ever happened to the Porsche 928? To me that was an awesome car for its time. Like other UAW greats its history. 1996 Impala SS, 2002 Z28 Camaro (Canada), and others cars which were scrubbed, once perfected. Just who is running these car companies? Can anyone think of other bone yard cars, which should still be made? UAW or non-union?
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Re: Porsche 928 S (sport) [dallasdude1] by rogeliov
Nov 21, 2008 (10:47 pm)
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Replying to: dallasdude1 (Nov 21, 2008 10:22 pm)

The Pontiac GOOLE as many people called it here in the southwest, also known as the Pontiac 6000 LE. One of Pontiac's most trouble free car, they killed it.
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Re: Porsche 928 S (sport) [rogeliov] by steve_ HOST
Nov 21, 2008 (10:59 pm)
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Replying to: rogeliov (Nov 21, 2008 10:47 pm)

But the union didn't kill it.
 
And the UAW is the topic in here.
 
/hint
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Re: Well... [michaell] by tlong
Nov 21, 2008 (11:01 pm)
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Replying to: michaell (Nov 21, 2008 12:09 pm)

It's hard to believe that Wagoner, Mullaly and Nardelli had nothing better to offer than "Business as Usual".
  
Isn't that what got them into this mess?

 
Wagoner's story is that GM has *already* done its restructuring (the health care givebacks, two-tier wage scales for the union, some cuts in force, etc.) that have provided the structural change for competitiveness. It's just that this unanticipated economic situation has caused a cash flow problem and the money they want is a bridge loan until the economy improves.
 
I find it laughable that he thinks that with eight divisions still standing, with the Camaro and Volt coming as the "save the day" models, he's done enough restructuring. What he thinks is restructuring many of us think is just nibbling around the edges. Real restructuring will be far more massive, impactful, and brutal than the efforts they have made so far. And it needs to happen if GM is to be saved.
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Re: Only second-rate countries... [dallasdude1] by cz75
Nov 22, 2008 (5:44 am)
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Replying to: dallasdude1 (Nov 20, 2008 8:29 pm)

Everyone driving a Z28 looks like they're on parole.

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