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Replying to: gagrice (Nov 17, 2008 10:02 pm)  I wished Fintail, was around to keep you in check !!!  -Rocky |
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rockford I have seen so many dull looking huge pick-em-up trucks from GM right now and so few affordable green products that I am of the mindset that GM can just fall in to a huge Midwest protoplasm omeba of Detroit Piston muck. The Silverado you see to the right in the ad has slowed us all down for long enough. That gravytrain has sailed. Your GDP numbers are inflated because they're made by a UAW member, aren't they? The bailout is dead. I agree with gagrice on this one. Dead. Done. Cya-Nara. Cya-woudn't want to have ever been ya. Over. And out. rockylee...is it true that Chev really wants $46,995 for the 2010 Chevy Volt? Please tell me that's an Internet misnomer, man. 
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Replying to: iluvmysephia1 (Nov 18, 2008 1:12 am) free trade is not necessarily fair trade, The chinese surplus is over $259 billion and only growing.., With the banks getting bailed out(and that number is well past a few $$$trillion, some say getting close to $9trillion or more) the Big 3 should get a $100 billion rescue loan that gets paid back with interest.., if you are into green that bad(and i am not saying it is bad) then you should try puting more green into the average homes that create pollution also.., okay, if you like cars more then maybe you should start working on the 'Car Tires' and i have just the link for you --> link title and let the foreigners build cameras or maybe you can try selling the foreigners to the u.s. military. 
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Replying to: imidazol97 (Nov 17, 2008 5:42 pm) What I cannot believe is how even here, after it has been repeated and repeated, that we do not know the real facts. How in the heck can we expect the rest of the country to know???? ALL employees of GM have lost their retiree health care. ALL Salarieds pay 100%. UAW retirees are getting something from their own UAW accounts. GM will not be on the hook. Caveat: GM has agreed to make a multi billion payment into some UAW fund to start the fund. |
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Replying to: rockylee (Nov 17, 2008 7:53 pm)
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Replying to: lemko (Nov 17, 2008 3:42 pm) And why does he give the Germans a pass? The Japanese may sell more units, but the top end of the market, which the Germans have dominated for decades, accounts for a huge chunk of the profits. As far as its bottom line is concerned, GM would be in much better shape if it sold fewer Chevies & more Caddies. Luxury is where the money is. But my main gripe with these "Buy American" guys is that they don't understand this basic fact: you don't have to wave the flag to get most of us to buy American if you're building exciting cars. |
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...don't have an auto industry of their own. Shoot even FRANCE has it's own auto industry and own Nissan to boot! Don't give me the UK as an example. They are a huge has-been nation compared to what they once were. "The sun never sets on British soil!" Feh! Looks like "Great" Britain has been experiencing a solar eclipse for almost 40 years. Yeah, we'll go into a deep depression if the Big Three collapse and we'll come out of it in about 5-10 years. Of course, will any of us be here when it ends? I so, won't we be living a much diminished lifestyle? Import lovers should really fear a collapse of the Big Three if they love their cars so much. Let me give you this scenario. "Hey, Bill! How's your new 2016 Toyota Camry? I love it, Joe, but I can't seem to keep a decent paint job on it. Every morning I wake up to see some joker keyed it or spraypainted profanity on it! Yeah, I'm having trouble with my 2014 Honda Accord. I just can't keep tires on it because some idiots keep slashing the sidewalls. Hey, there's Al! Al, we've been talking cars. How's your 2015 Nissan Altima? Fine, except I can't seem to keep glass in it with all these unemployed auto workers roaming the streets. Just yesterday, I was stopped at a light and these two guys in tattered clothes threw a cinderblock through my windshield. Geeze, why doesn't somebody call the cops? What cops? The city laid off half the force 'cause there's no tax funds for them. I hear there's going to be more lay-offs..."
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Replying to: lemko (Nov 18, 2008 5:53 am) If I don't want to buy your product, it's your fault -- not mine. Don't try to bully me into buying by threatening to brick my windshield. Instead, go to work figuring out exactly what I want & offer it to me at a price that I'm willing to pay. I'll say it again: the customer is always right. (Anyway, where I live, I'm more likely to be mugged by a laid-off Lehman Bros. managing director than by an unemployed auto worker.) It's worth noting that back in the late 70s & early 80s, the British government spent billions trying to rescue British Leyland, which had been the UK's largest car manufacturer. But BL went under anyway.
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"As has been said many times as the domestic auto industry continues its frenetic unraveling, there's plenty of blame to go around, and a portion of it lies with the unions. The United Auto Workers has rarely been out of the conversation of what's ruined Detroit Inc., but arguments centered on the notion that fat, uncompetitive unionized labor is the root cause of Detroit's ills are specious - and little more than an excuse for some good-old-fashioned union-bashing." Yeah or Nay on Bailout, But Don't Blame Detroit's Problems Only on Labor (AutoObserver) 
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Replying to: steve_ (Nov 18, 2008 7:21 am) |
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