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Seems the Democrats do not want to use the money allocated in the Energy bill to bail out the Big 3. Bush has said he did not want to spend all the money in the bailout. He will leave over half for Obama to decide. Obama makes the decision which voters he will pay back. GM folding will be forgotten in a year. Except for the suckers with their cars that were supposed to be covered by warranty. NO ONE IN THEIR RIGHT MIND WOULD BUY A GM VEHICLE NOW. Ford will probably come out stronger as will Toyota and the other transplants. |
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Replying to: gagrice (Nov 17, 2008 9:20 pm) That has to be one of the most ridiculous things I've ever heard in my life !!!!  General Motors Corp Executive Salaries, Bonuses, Stock Options, and Other Compensation http://www.companypay.com/executive/compensation/general-motors-corp.asp?yr=2008- -Rocky
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Replying to: rockylee (Nov 17, 2008 9:52 pm) Those salaries and bonuses are even more reason to let GM DIE. Wagoner sees no reason to change the top tier managers. Gettlefinger sees no reason for the UAW to give concessions. GM cannot make it without outside cash to pay these high costs. Let them go. And I do not believe for one second that GM is that important to the US economy. Barely a blip on the GDP. Not even one half of one percent. You are living in the past as is most of the UAW members. You watch too much worthless TV. It is in Obama's court now. Bush handed it over to him. He does not want to deal with that bunch of losers in the 110th Congress.
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Replying to: gagrice (Nov 17, 2008 10:02 pm) -Rocky |
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Replying to: gagrice (Nov 17, 2008 10:02 pm)  I wished Fintail, was around to keep you in check !!!  -Rocky |
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rockford I have seen so many dull looking huge pick-em-up trucks from GM right now and so few affordable green products that I am of the mindset that GM can just fall in to a huge Midwest protoplasm omeba of Detroit Piston muck. The Silverado you see to the right in the ad has slowed us all down for long enough. That gravytrain has sailed. Your GDP numbers are inflated because they're made by a UAW member, aren't they? The bailout is dead. I agree with gagrice on this one. Dead. Done. Cya-Nara. Cya-woudn't want to have ever been ya. Over. And out. rockylee...is it true that Chev really wants $46,995 for the 2010 Chevy Volt? Please tell me that's an Internet misnomer, man.
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Replying to: iluvmysephia1 (Nov 18, 2008 1:12 am) free trade is not necessarily fair trade, The chinese surplus is over $259 billion and only growing.., With the banks getting bailed out(and that number is well past a few $$$trillion, some say getting close to $9trillion or more) the Big 3 should get a $100 billion rescue loan that gets paid back with interest.., if you are into green that bad(and i am not saying it is bad) then you should try puting more green into the average homes that create pollution also.., okay, if you like cars more then maybe you should start working on the 'Car Tires' and i have just the link for you --> link title and let the foreigners build cameras or maybe you can try selling the foreigners to the u.s. military. 
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Replying to: imidazol97 (Nov 17, 2008 5:42 pm) What I cannot believe is how even here, after it has been repeated and repeated, that we do not know the real facts. How in the heck can we expect the rest of the country to know???? ALL employees of GM have lost their retiree health care. ALL Salarieds pay 100%. UAW retirees are getting something from their own UAW accounts. GM will not be on the hook. Caveat: GM has agreed to make a multi billion payment into some UAW fund to start the fund. |
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Replying to: rockylee (Nov 17, 2008 7:53 pm)
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Replying to: lemko (Nov 17, 2008 3:42 pm) And why does he give the Germans a pass? The Japanese may sell more units, but the top end of the market, which the Germans have dominated for decades, accounts for a huge chunk of the profits. As far as its bottom line is concerned, GM would be in much better shape if it sold fewer Chevies & more Caddies. Luxury is where the money is. But my main gripe with these "Buy American" guys is that they don't understand this basic fact: you don't have to wave the flag to get most of us to buy American if you're building exciting cars. |
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