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Re: [gagrice] by rockylee
Nov 17, 2008 (7:53 pm)
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Replying to: gagrice (Nov 17, 2008 6:38 pm)

My father is young enough to work still if he had too. Will be 52 in a few months. He is thinking about becoming a Toyota Embroidery Machine Technician because he knows how to work on them better than the guys who are certified. He also is looking into getting a certificate to do peoples taxes for another partial income thus he has some things to fall back on in a crunch !!!
 
I assume most of ya'll seen the video I posted. If the Big 3 fail this country is done !!! What's good for Big 3 is good for America. If we can give a bunch of money to sleazy Wallstreet executives to spend on spa resorts or on a worthless war in Iraq, that had nothing to do with 9/11 we can sure in the hell bailout the Big 3. It's a loan and once we fix trade and currency manipulation GM, like many struggling domestic manufacturers will be better off. I would love nothing better than to not only see General Motors, build the future green vehicles but also get involved in building other forms of transportation i.e. bullet trains, jet airplanes, etc.....
If the tax payers want to guarantee GM, success give them contracts to build some of these green technologies here in the U.S. We have plenty of nice but empty facilities here in Michigan. Delphi Coopersville, MI. plant comes to mind as a place that is already wired for big time manufacturing yet it still remains a empty plant last time I knew.
 
-Rocky
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Re: UAW [imidazol97] by rockylee
Nov 17, 2008 (7:55 pm)
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Replying to: imidazol97 (Nov 17, 2008 5:36 pm)

PBCG, only pays 60% I was told !!!
 
-Rocky
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Re: UAW [cooterbfd] by rockylee
Nov 17, 2008 (7:56 pm)
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Replying to: cooterbfd (Nov 17, 2008 5:50 pm)

Retirees get their money out of a fund that is separate from the company's cash on hand.
 
Correct and it's with Fidelity !!!
 
-Rocky
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Re: rocky... [iluvmysephia1] by rockylee
Nov 17, 2008 (8:03 pm)
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Replying to: iluvmysephia1 (Nov 17, 2008 6:23 pm)

Maybe start taking some action toward re-training. Your "facts" don't hide the fact that you avoid: not enough people want GM, Ford and Chrysler products.
 
Well that's not true either because GM, still sells by quite a large margin more automobiles than Toyota, here in the U.S. last time I checked !!!
 
Should the U.S. be involved in throwing hard-earned tax monies away?
 
Invest $25 billion now or lose $160 Billion in 3 years thus the choice is yours !!!
 
Poor planning and management has equalled big-time trouble and throwing a very expensive Band-Aid at this while a lot of peope in all trades and industries are also losing their jobs isn't making good common sense to me.
 
I would throw more than $25 billion at the problem. I would give the Big 3 a $100 Billion Dollars and with that money with government oversight I would award them contracts to build locomotives, military equipment, etc.....
 
-Rocky
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Re: rocky... [lemko] by rockylee
Nov 17, 2008 (8:04 pm)
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Replying to: lemko (Nov 17, 2008 7:20 pm)

Very well said lemko !!!!
 
-Rocky
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Re: UAW [imidazol97] by dieselone
Nov 17, 2008 (9:11 pm)
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Replying to: imidazol97 (Nov 17, 2008 5:36 pm)

My FIL gets his pension from the PBGC and he gets about 60% of his original pension. There is a formula that I believe considers age, length of employment, and pension amount. My FIL was around 53 when LTV went BK and he had around 31 years of service.
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Bailout Dead for now... by gagrice
Nov 17, 2008 (9:20 pm)
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Seems the Democrats do not want to use the money allocated in the Energy bill to bail out the Big 3. Bush has said he did not want to spend all the money in the bailout. He will leave over half for Obama to decide. Obama makes the decision which voters he will pay back.
 
GM folding will be forgotten in a year. Except for the suckers with their cars that were supposed to be covered by warranty. NO ONE IN THEIR RIGHT MIND WOULD BUY A GM VEHICLE NOW. Ford will probably come out stronger as will Toyota and the other transplants.
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Re: Bailout Dead for now... [gagrice] by rockylee
Nov 17, 2008 (9:52 pm)
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Replying to: gagrice (Nov 17, 2008 9:20 pm)

GM folding will be forgotten in a year.
 
That has to be one of the most ridiculous things I've ever heard in my life !!!!
 
General Motors Corp
 
Executive Salaries, Bonuses, Stock Options, and Other Compensation

 
http://www.companypay.com/executive/compensation/general-motors-corp.asp?yr=2008-
 
-Rocky
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Re: Bailout Dead for now... [rockylee] by gagrice
Nov 17, 2008 (10:02 pm)
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Replying to: rockylee (Nov 17, 2008 9:52 pm)

Executive Salaries, Bonuses, Stock Options, and Other Compensation
 
Those salaries and bonuses are even more reason to let GM DIE. Wagoner sees no reason to change the top tier managers. Gettlefinger sees no reason for the UAW to give concessions. GM cannot make it without outside cash to pay these high costs. Let them go. And I do not believe for one second that GM is that important to the US economy. Barely a blip on the GDP. Not even one half of one percent. You are living in the past as is most of the UAW members. You watch too much worthless TV. It is in Obama's court now. Bush handed it over to him. He does not want to deal with that bunch of losers in the 110th Congress.
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Re: Bailout Dead for now... [gagrice] by rockylee
Nov 17, 2008 (10:40 pm)
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Replying to: gagrice (Nov 17, 2008 10:02 pm)

The Big 3 account for 4% GDP so get your facts straight before you rant about how little the automobile industry matters to this country. If the Big 3 dies so will the rest of the country....Those are the facts !!!
 
-Rocky

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