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Re: UAW [fezo] by steve_ HOST
Nov 17, 2008 (4:08 pm)
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Replying to: fezo (Nov 17, 2008 2:39 pm)

But that insurance policy doesn't pay out 100% of what you would have gotten. It's a reduced pension.
 
My sister was a long time UAL employee and she got her full pension in spite of UAL's bankruptcy. I think Kernick pointed out somewhere around here that the PGBC pension amount is based on years of service or some formula like that.
 
Since the Big 3's workers are generally older than those employed by the foreign car manufacturers in the US, many of their pensions may not be reduced all that much. Either way, the taxpayer is gonna be on the hook big time, since the premiums paid into the PGBC won't be near enough to cover the payments.
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Re: rocky...rocky..rocky... [iluvmysephia1] by rockylee
Nov 17, 2008 (4:36 pm)
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Replying to: iluvmysephia1 (Nov 17, 2008 3:58 pm)

I WANT EVERY PERSON TO WATCH THIS VIDEO PLEASE !!!
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=72cHfOKoA1c
 
-Rocky
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Re: rocky...rocky..rocky... [iluvmysephia1] by fezo
Nov 17, 2008 (4:38 pm)
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Replying to: iluvmysephia1 (Nov 17, 2008 3:58 pm)

Good point, Steve.
 
No doubt about it that no matter how this goes we're going to pay a large fortune.
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GM FACTS AND FICTION by rockylee
Nov 17, 2008 (4:45 pm)
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http://gmfactsandfiction.com/
 
-Rocky
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So does those numbers not scare you ??? by rockylee
Nov 17, 2008 (5:04 pm)
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I think as I said have made my point very clear as to the domino effect the Big 3 collapse would have including healthcare jobs. The difference iluv, is Boeing didn't go belly up despite you losing your job pal, and it was democrats who pushed to save Boeing, despite people like McCain, who faught giving Boeing's, union folks contracts and gave them to McDonald Douglas, !!! Boeing, like General Motors, is an important industry not for just the jobs it provides but their demise is a national security issue and I have a feeling someday WWIII will break out and it will be companies like the Big 3 and Boeing, who will give us a fighting chance at victory while you work on doing your healthcare deal on us young guys who are doing the fighting !!!!
 
"The Rock"
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Re: UAW [steve_] by cooterbfd
Nov 17, 2008 (5:08 pm)
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Replying to: steve_ (Nov 17, 2008 4:08 pm)

According to the PBGC, they pay 100% of the first $11 per mo., per yr of service of benefits, then 75% of the rest. So you would receive more than 75% of your pension. I would venture to say if you received $3000/mo., PBGC would pay $24-2600/mo.
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Re: Be thankful for Honda, Toyota [chikoo] by dave8697
Nov 17, 2008 (5:30 pm)
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Replying to: chikoo (Nov 17, 2008 2:25 pm)

Are you part of the phoney brainwashing media blitz wanting to see America fail?
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Re: UAW [cooterbfd] by imidazol97
Nov 17, 2008 (5:36 pm)
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Replying to: cooterbfd (Nov 17, 2008 5:08 pm)

Are you saying that the PBGC doesn't pay the full amount of the pension?...
 
--charlie
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Re: UAW [cooterbfd] by imidazol97
Nov 17, 2008 (5:42 pm)
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Replying to: cooterbfd (Nov 17, 2008 2:34 pm)

>Sorry Charlie,
 
Who's Charlie?
 
What companies have CUT retiree healthcare and checks
 
A neighbor of a close friend had his pension cut and healthcare costs were increased. I don't know if it's a national company from which he retired or not. I'll ask our friend when I see her next. She had him paint her home and do some interior paint and light remodeling work because she felt sorry for him.
 
A parent in a group my son was in kept finding the national company for which he worked kept changing the promise for healthcare for retirees. He hadn't retired yet but what I understood is that the company kept paying less and less. He also kept fighting the changing amount of retirement if he did retire. I don't see him often to ask how it turned out.
 
In GM's case the retirees need to take a reduction to help keep the company going. Otherwise..., no sympathy.
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Re: UAW [imidazol97] by cooterbfd
Nov 17, 2008 (5:50 pm)
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Replying to: imidazol97 (Nov 17, 2008 5:42 pm)

Retirees get their money out of a fund that is separate from the company's cash on hand.

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